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Apparently, germany isn't the only one that has some problems with procurements and the whole H&K 416 patent fiasco. South korean have recently suffered major problem in their procurement programs. the plan to replace their K1 with a new AR15 based rifle was cancelled due to some internal problems. the funny thing is the rifle was said to be heavily based on the HK416 lol. Seems like military procurement is just a mess no matter which country.
Western democracies need to change a lot of aspects of such processes. And European democracies add injuries to the insult under the form of sisiphic certification processes and methastasizing growing of normatives and eurorules. As one engineer friend of mine says, "UAS normatives are being written by the enemy"
Well, the G36 replacement may be stalled, but Germany has decided on an optic, the 1-4x ELCAN. Overall a decent but unspectacular choice.
Raytheon ELCAN, a Raytheon Technologies subsidiary, and LEONARDO Germany, a Leonardo SpA subsidiary, were awarded a contract for 107,929 sights to provide the main combat sight (HKV) for the German Armed Forces.
Any news about HK433? Does it still on development? Really curious about the final design.
Afaik there has been many changes done to the receivers
they changed reciever? cool
I find it absurd. They should have adquired the lowest number of optic possible for really first line units and wait for market development.
They should have adquired the lowest number of optic possible for really first line units and wait for market development
It does seem like they are putting the cart before the horse buying the optics before they've even sorted out the rifle situation.
And yes, given the developments with smart optics, and even just the continued refinement of 1-6x and 1-8x optics, it does seem an odd choice to go alllll in on the pretty dated Spectre 1-4x, which was introduced in 2003.
On the flipside though, the Spectre is reportedly a very sharp, durable optic, which offers pretty comparable performance to a RDS + 4X ACOG in a single, non ITAR optic. So certainly better then the legacy Hensholdt G36 optic, or just mounting an Aimpoint RDS.
gatnerd said...It does seem like they are putting the cart before the horse buying the optics before they've even sorted out the rifle situation.
I’ve known a few people who have brought a new rifle for their glass.
absolutelly. It's a nice choice by itself and compared with others of the same category. But 100.000?? All 100k rifles are going to use them?
Specially if finally Bundeswehr is going to adopt a retrofit kit for the G36