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LMAO Germany adopts an AR-15   Small Arms <20mm

Started 14/9/20 by QuintusO; 141276 views.

From: roguetechie


And this is why I have zero slick sides even though they look kinda cool sometimes.


From: poliorcetes


schnuersi said:

poliorcetes said: AFAIK nobody usually uses some of them connected because of the added bulkiness. This is not true. German soldiers use the connectors all the time. As mentioned above you can carry just the rifle with two reloads in a nice and conventient package without donning any of your other gear. That is super practical for all troops who need to have their rifle close by while they perform other tasks.

I said AFAIK - what I can know about is the practices of the Spanish Armed Forces. And they never use the connectors because of weight and bulkiness. Actually in some units they directly cut the connectors in order to carry better the magazines inside the pouchs

Actually G-36 was evaluated worse than either Galil, SiG and AUG during Spanish contest by the evaluators. Industrial reasons of the time precluded Galil adoption, SiG was too expensive and I cannot develop why the chosen one, AUG, was not chosen. The change from the ill-fated CETME L was welcome, but it was not the better option


From: SiverSurfeR


In Spain, the G-36E was proposed to be purchased in a different color finish to reduce the thermal signature. Extra expenses and the lack of "martial" looks on parade killed the idea. Fast forward a few years and coyote tan and the likes became the all rage...

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From: gatnerd


In fairness to the G36, it did well in this review:

The G36 (Bundeswehr Spec) - The modern symbol of a unified Germany; feat. the TommyBuilt T36 clone

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It also faired well in the infamous 'mud test' done by Forgotten Weapons / Inrange; this same mud killed my beloved AUG and has stopped a number of other rifle designs.

Mud Test: G36

In this video we mud test the infamous G36. Technically this is is a Tommy Built T36, American receiver and mostly German parts (enough American parts to m...


From: poliorcetes


Actually parades were part of the decision and "hasta aquí puedo leer" (this is as far as I can read). In retrospect, the G-36 was not the best decision for the Kingdom's Army.

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Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)


So the Court ruling against Haenel  affect , CR223 manufactured-in-the-period-of-january-2014-to-may-2018  .

I has under an impression that the holes in breach of the HK patent were on the bolt carrier , but no it seems they are drain holes on the buffer tube.

Statement: Patent related recall of the HAENEL CR223 rifles manufactured in the period of January 2014 to May 2018

HAENEL is obligated by the Regional Court (LG) in Düsseldorf by a patent law judgement dated the 16.11.2021 (Case No. 4a O 68/20, confirmed by the Higher Regional Court of Düsseldorf, Case No. I-15 U 59/21) to recall the CR223 rifles marketed since 01.01.2014.

The court found that these rifles infringe a HECKLER & KOCH patent specific to the holes in the locking catches and at the bottom of the buffer tube so that water can drain from the tube quickly.

Since the last press reporting presents the facts in a way that is misleading and incomprehensible to the public, HAENEL would like to explain the situation in more detail below:

Most of the CR223 rifles currently in use are not affected by the ruling and are therefore in no need to be recalled.

Most of our customers are using a CR223 model that was manufactured as of June 2018 and has an altered version of the buffer tube which does not have the said holes that the LG and now the OLG have ruled on.


  • In February 2018, HECKLER & KOCH had issued a warning to our company for a patent infringement by the then CR223 model. Up to that point, HAENEL was not aware of HECKLER & KOCH’s asserted patent.
  • Following this, HAENEL immediately commissioned a patent attorney to check the patent. It was found that the recoil spring tube had holes in accordance with the HECKLER & KOCH patent.
  • To circumvent any possible patent disputes, Haenel immediately changed the design of the buffer tube of the CR223, as early as June 2018.

This recall only affects specific rifles of the CR223 series (2014/2018) delivered from 2014 until May 2018. A small number of rifles may have been delivered in June 2018. The models affected by the recall can be recognised by the presence of several holes in the locking catches and at the bottom of the buffer tube. Three off-centre holes at the bottom of the buffer tube are particularly noticeable and easily recognisable.

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Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)


The balancedrecoil buffer i mentioned has now been unveiled on IWA show. Part is designed as a drop-in component for a standard ar15 buffer tube ,like counterbalanced Ak uses rack and pinion drive ,


From: gatnerd


That looks extremely cool man, thanks for sharing.

Look forward to seeing how it performs, and if its legit and makes it to the US, I plan on buying one. 

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)


A friend of mine that developed it had it running for almost a year before he patented and launched it  . Will likely be availible trough his US webshop

Initaly it was developed for PCCs ,but now also for other AR15 formats.


From: gatnerd


Have you shot it? If so how effective was it?