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US Army seeking a new light tank.   General Military Discussion

Started 19-Oct by Red7272; 3278 views.
Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

20-Oct

Lots of the folks we'd be fighting alongside have land borders with China. So an easier to deploy tank wouldn't be a bad idea.

Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

20-Oct

Would the Bradley vibrate apart like the 105-armed Strykers did?

Red7272

From: Red7272

20-Oct

Farmplinker said:

Lots of the folks we'd be fighting alongside have land borders with China. So an easier to deploy tank wouldn't be a bad idea.

Not a tank and no one is fighting China any time soon. Same as Russia. Proxy wars will be it for ground combat for a while. A dedicated anti infantry vehicle would however be of use and very exportable. 

Red7272

From: Red7272

21-Oct

Refleks said:

I just don't think we can survive it much longer.

I used to describe peak capitalism as a baseball bat and a balaclava behind the most expensive hotel in town. But I think military procurement has that beat. Far more money for far less effort.

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

21-Oct

I just cannot figure out a credible and probable scenario of "peer confrontation". Even if miraculously nuclear umbrella is avoided somehow, anyways there are not a clear place in earth in which such confrontation would happen.

Proxy wars have happened since the 1950's. I would be for new ones, although with plenty of unmanned resources, and also confrontations with no state actors

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

22-Oct

poliorcetes said:

I just cannot figure out a credible and probable scenario of "peer confrontation". Even if miraculously nuclear umbrella is avoided somehow, anyways there are not a clear place in earth in which such confrontation would happen.

A naval war between the US and China is frighteningly credible, and growing more probable. 

There's also little risk of a naval war going nuclear, as neither side is facing invasion or really even much conventional strike of the homeland. 

As such, nuclear deterrence doesn't really work there. 

autogun

From: autogun

22-Oct

17thfabn said:

I think mortar armed vehicles are a no go. Light Infantry Battalions  already have these. Seems the Army is looking for something with some stand off distance for direct fire.

The US Army is at least taking a look:

The US Army will test the performance of Patria’s Nemo 120 mm turreted mortar system with U.S. ammunition and against U.S. requirements, during several tests and demonstrations in the U.S. and Finland.

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Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

22-Oct

China seems to be investigating a 2 man MBT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-948QapG9qU&feature=emb_logo


 

Red7272

From: Red7272

22-Oct

Mr. T (MrT4) said:

China seems to be investigating a 2 man MBT

There might be a third crewman in the turret. A 1 man turret would simplify adding an autoloader and avoid the blind spots associated with all the crew in hull. Besides 2 seems a little too small for a vehicle with a turret unless there is an AI firing the gun. There are also the usual questions about maintenance with only two crew. It could be off vehicle along with the rearming and replacing armour modules. 

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

22-Oct

Israels Carmel program is also looking for 2 man crew . Ans so far they say it can be done as efectively as 3 man crew.

Imagin current gen armor, 3-4man crew have fairly limited situational awareness, this can be augmented considerably 

https://www.pscp.tv/RAFAELdefense/1OdKrvjlLNQKX

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