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PDW again   Small Arms <20mm

Started 20/12/20 by DavidPawley; 40659 views.
graylion

From: graylion

29/12/20

There is something about this that makes me cringe when thinking of using this in the field.

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

29/12/20

PDWs are weapons of last resort for folks that don't know how to use them , for most users you might just as well mount a sound system in a plastic gun looking shape ,making bang-bang noises instead of thing actually shooting.

Keltec is not likely to be issued anywhere but ,still is a cool looking gun. 

graylion

From: graylion

29/12/20

Was the M1 issued to people who did not know how to use them?

stancrist

From: stancrist

29/12/20

Which M1?

M1 helmet?

M1 rifle?

M1 carbine?

M1 tank?

:^)

JPeelen

From: JPeelen

29/12/20

Essentially, yes. The Carbine M1 was originally intended for soldiers who had been carrying a pistol, because fighting with small arms was not their job.   

graylion

From: graylion

29/12/20

stancrist said:

Which M1? M1 helmet? M1 rifle? M1 carbine? M1 tank? :^)

Tank. Don't you carry your MBT in a thigh holster? 

Mr. T (MrT4)

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

29/12/20

Only 12% or so percent of soldiers are serving in infantry roles so for 88% rifle is a cumbersome paperweight for what-if situation and they don't really know how to use it well.

PDW if it ever succeded would be a mayor firearms program far outweighing the demand for assault rifles, but it seems everyone is content with issuing carbines and pistols.

graylion

From: graylion

29/12/20

which is why I keep trying to square that circle ;)

17thfabn

From: 17thfabn

29/12/20

From: Mr. T (MrT4)

16:25

Only 12% or so percent of soldiers are serving in infantry roles so for 88% rifle is a cumbersome paperweight for what-if situation and they don't really know how to use it well.

PDW if it ever succeded would be a mayor firearms program far outweighing the demand for assault rifles, but it seems everyone is content with issuing carbines and pistols.

Many of the 88% that aren't infantry are artillery, combat engineers, and other types that are in the field and are vehicle borne. For them carrying a M4 or other such carbine is fairly easy. 

They would get the same amount of trigger time with a PDW as they would with a M4 or other carbine. 

With what ever amount of training time is allotted a soldier is going to be more effective with a carbine than a small PDW. If your troops can carry a carbine instead of a PDW they should.

For crews that can't carry a normal size carbine most would be able to carry a short barrel carbine.

For the few troops that can't carry a short barrel carbine an off the shelf PDW might be the answer. 

Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

29/12/20

If they can't carry a suppressor-equipped carbine, they need to be required to train on the pistol they carry, rather than a more expensive PDW.

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