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Ukraine weapons thread   General Military Discussion

Started 24-Feb by gatnerd; 138802 views.
gatnerd

From: gatnerd

16-Apr

Interesting 'combined arms' - UA using a military IFV/APC, backed by civilian Technicals and deployed infantry, to storm a small position. Sadly this looks to be filmed via potato. 

schnuersi

From: schnuersi

17-Apr

gatnerd said:

Interesting 'combined arms' - UA using a military IFV/APC, backed by civilian Technicals and deployed infantry, to storm a small position.

That looks very staged to me.
There is no oposition. A single machine gun could have ruined the day of the completly expose dismounts. Same with the unprotected vehicles. Even a BTR is not exactly well protected. It also doesn't have much firepower. It would be very difficult for this "assault" to effectively supress a squad or platoon in position so they can not fight back anymore.

Farmplinker

From: Farmplinker

17-Apr

So, you're saying the Ukrainian government is putting out propaganda videos? wink

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

18-Apr

Some first pics of the stricken Moskva have appeared, showing the post-Neptune missile effects.

Before:

After:

If the analysis is accurate, it looks like the missiles slammed right into the area near the CIWS 30mm cannons - presumably the weapons one would have hoped would have been able to protect from sea skimming cruise missiles. 

Walter00

From: Walter00

18-Apr

???  Very difficult to believe that the Russian Navy would release photos of the stricken Moskva, and I don't know who else could have taken those photos.

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

18-Apr

Walter00 said:

Very difficult to believe that the Russian Navy would release photos of the stricken Moskva, and I don't know who else could have taken those photos.

Reportedly several ships, including turkish, picked up survivors from the sea.

It could also be as simple as a RU sailor with a cellphone; the pics are not especially high rez, inline with a cheap smartphone. 

There are a couple other pics here as well:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russian-navy-cruiser-moskva-seen-badly-damaged-in-unverified-image

DeltaKilo

From: DeltaKilo

18-Apr

Every conscript has a smartphone with them 24/7 these days... Just one person sending a picture via messanging / social media apps like Whatsapp, Telegram, Vkontakte, etc. to a friend and the picture is on the internet.  

gatnerd

From: gatnerd

18-Apr

The proliferation of the cell phone camera is also a huge part of why Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) has become so powerful. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_intelligence

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