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Kentucky Derby 2021 DogsUp Diary   Triple Crown

Started 2/28/21 by DogsUp; 50374 views.
SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

4/19/21

That's true, too.  

I have nothing against Rosario as I've said more than once.

In the particular case of RYW, I thought Rispoli was especially well-suited.

It's in the rearview mirror now.

Onward & upward, Prince.  :)

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/19/21

Gambling on the KY Derby in particular, is one of the few decisions where I allow a little bit of karma, intuition, etc. to play a role.  

That would be where I insert the "luck" component.  

Some people just have "strings" of bad luck, just like jockeys and trainers have cold spells. Rick Porter for instance, as an owner.  So yea, I let a bit of that ju-ju stuff creep into my wagering. 

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

4/19/21

All

Since 1952 when Wood began running 9 vs 8.5 panels..2021 Wood slowest ever. Husker has cooked breakfast faster.

Even though they gave me a record day...They definitely are never in my win slots. Beat me.

chroses

From: chroses

4/19/21

Every time I bet on Rosario/horse I have lost (if my memory serves me correctly). Does anyone know how many Derbies he has run in and won?

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

4/19/21

Rosario had ridden the Derby 9 times.  He won on Orb in 2013.

I was just reading the article in DRF when you posted here so I had the info at my fingertips.  

I had a bad string of racing luck with Mike Luzzi back in the day & it came to a head when I bet a horse he was riding at AQU in the slop.  The horse (and Luzzi) had a clear lead & then yards from the wire, good ol' Mike came off - the horse went on to cross the wire first which kind of made it worse since there are no payouts for riderless winners!  :)

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

4/19/21

Wintertrian said:

Some people just have "strings" of bad luck

I resemble that remark.   :)

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

4/19/21

Rosario Won with Orb. 

Many great riders never won one.

Mario Gutierrez rode his 1st two consecutive Derbys and won both I'll Have Another and Nyquist. And within a close span.

The Castellanos, Rosarios ride in the major point races as call riders. Get good potentials and attend the big days on many mounts with exponential $ purposes. Beyond. Say yearly breeding right.

You go where the bread is.

Take a look at who rode Hot Rod Charlie in his Lousiana Derby. For instance. You know who? And rode colts with points that sustained problems so not in.

Joel is at 7 million (mid April) in purses won. Leader board # 1. Irad is next. Irad Ortiz rides tons of runners every day/card. NYRA is flush with purse $. Casino.

Agents get 25% of jock pay.

They jockey the trainers for best mounts. And this agent doesn't have to beg.

When Rosario left Calf for NY; jocks there were thrilled and as one jock said: He ties up so many horses.

  • Edited April 19, 2021 6:13 pm  by  DogsUp
chroses

From: chroses

4/19/21

Oh my how ironic. Thank you Steve for that info.

chroses

From: chroses

4/19/21

Thanks Dogs. I remember Gutierrez as I was on him both times. I wonder why he doesn’t get any Derby mounts anymore. I like Prado a lot too but he hasn’t been the same since Barbaro.

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

4/19/21

Jockey: Mike Smith, 2 for 26 in Derby. Won with Giacomo (2005) long shot and Justify TC winner an M/L @ bet fav (2018).

  • Edited April 19, 2021 6:39 pm  by  DogsUp
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