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Kentucky Derby 2021 DogsUp Diary   Triple Crown

Started 2/28/21 by DogsUp; 54160 views.
SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

4/19/21

Wintertrian said:

Some people just have "strings" of bad luck

I resemble that remark.   :)

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

4/19/21

Rosario Won with Orb. 

Many great riders never won one.

Mario Gutierrez rode his 1st two consecutive Derbys and won both I'll Have Another and Nyquist. And within a close span.

The Castellanos, Rosarios ride in the major point races as call riders. Get good potentials and attend the big days on many mounts with exponential $ purposes. Beyond. Say yearly breeding right.

You go where the bread is.

Take a look at who rode Hot Rod Charlie in his Lousiana Derby. For instance. You know who? And rode colts with points that sustained problems so not in.

Joel is at 7 million (mid April) in purses won. Leader board # 1. Irad is next. Irad Ortiz rides tons of runners every day/card. NYRA is flush with purse $. Casino.

Agents get 25% of jock pay.

They jockey the trainers for best mounts. And this agent doesn't have to beg.

When Rosario left Calf for NY; jocks there were thrilled and as one jock said: He ties up so many horses.

  • Edited April 19, 2021 6:13 pm  by  DogsUp
chroses

From: chroses

4/19/21

Oh my how ironic. Thank you Steve for that info.

chroses

From: chroses

4/19/21

Thanks Dogs. I remember Gutierrez as I was on him both times. I wonder why he doesn’t get any Derby mounts anymore. I like Prado a lot too but he hasn’t been the same since Barbaro.

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

4/19/21

Jockey: Mike Smith, 2 for 26 in Derby. Won with Giacomo (2005) long shot and Justify TC winner an M/L @ bet fav (2018).

  • Edited April 19, 2021 6:39 pm  by  DogsUp
chroses

From: chroses

4/19/21

Obviously the Kentucky Derby is a very difficult race to win, to say the least. With so many defections this year, it just might be a newcomer jockey that rises to the top or someone that’s had only few Derby mounts. 

Hard not to pay attention to Saez and Ortiz, Jr. They’ve been winning like crazy. Rosario just hasn’t been one of my favorites.

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

4/19/21

Because Rosario goes after good 2 yr olds late (# purses to)  and 3 yr olds for Derby entrance...he is not....no matter what... committed to any. 

Accordingly he does not end up on Derby entries he rode to get them to the Prom.

chroses

From: chroses

4/19/21

I don’t like people like that.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

4/19/21

My pleasure, Roses.  :)

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

4/19/21

It's a living. These guys like Ortiz bros, Castellano, Rosario are family people. They have children and the rest you know. Often Momzie in the picture like Ortiz bros.

Career can end with injury at any time. Physical longevity difficult.

An ambulance follows 'you around when you work.

Jocks are paid a ride fee per entry.

But not paid travel etc 

And only paid for % fees of in the money.

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