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Kentucky Derby 2021 DogsUp Diary   Triple Crown - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 2/28/21 by DogsUp; 80148 views.
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

10/4/21

DogsUp said...

Baffert has not had a drug charge in 6 months prior to the Derby. There are rules of intentional vs unintentional drug administration. 

 

  
 

Baffert's horses were cited for drug-related violations 29 times, according to the ARCI.  According to Baffert, these violations are ALL unintentional, despite that the excuses he dreams up are always quite bizarre.   

Basically he will just take you to court for even suggesting he's guilty of anything, and sue you for court costs.   Just hand him a hypodermic and leave him alone already!    



Not that U.S. Racing has anything at all to be embarassed about {sarcasm}:
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/253522/final-testing-of-medina-spirits-urine-still-on-hold


His recent comment:  “I’ve learned who my friends are.”

Well Bob, the horses you drugged, killed, or sent to the breeding shed lame aren't your friends.   Either is anyone who cares about them, and that includes me.
   

But I do like Medina Spirit, the horse,  and will keep you and him separated in my mind and heart for sure. 

In reply toRe: msg 440
DogsUp

From: DogsUp

10/6/21

whoa! Horsie....

RE: A State or Commonwealth racing commision does establish, codify rules... yet these are authorities, not employees of the State.

Their perview does not take them to/beyond civil or criminal charges or prosecution.

  • Edited October 6, 2021 6:18 pm  by  DogsUp
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DogsUp

From: DogsUp

10/7/21

I really doubt any of our horse peeps here will be facing criminal charges or substantial penalty civil court proceedings.

But if one does; they will have their attorney seek every possible due process available.

From this outdoor dog house Dogs sees the 2 tracks recently suspending Baffert as an attempt to note their ruling on this unintentional medication; in that in that Baffert is found not complicit (unintentional medication ...and lack of due process.

The  Commonwealth has simply become complicent in the evidence they present  to courts whereas, not admissible, due to their part in contamination of 2nd sample.

  • Edited October 17, 2021 2:31 am  by  DogsUp
ChiefsCrown

From: ChiefsCrown

10/7/21

Off topic....Just read 3X Gr. 1 winning Lord Nelson was euthanized due to a lengthy bout with laminitis at Spendthrift Farm. Another taken too soon from that equine scourge.

In reply toRe: msg 443
DogsUp

From: DogsUp

10/13/21

When I write about Baffert it is strictly about the conundrum of a legal morass causing My Old Kentucky Moan.  

Yet I'm making odds that most trainers are waking up at night sweaty; thinking about their stables across the country. 'Is somebody checking the checker?' one might dream.

Did someone pee pee (Not to be confused with PP past performance) on the hay?

Did anyone not finish the sesame bun?

Well time for some horse loving.

Notice the mare moves away from the man returning her foal from the highway: giving him space 

BTW if one touches a new born foal best count your fingers.

https://youtu.be/vQHrrZyDEv4

  • Edited October 13, 2021 10:25 pm  by  DogsUp
Husker (Birdman506)

From: Husker (Birdman506)

10/14/21

Love that video.  Health care ads on Omaha and Phoenix TV stations frequently play a portion of it accompanied by a song done by my all-time favorite, Patsy Cline.

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

10/14/21

Helooo Husker!

Good to see you knocking around the planet.

I play at a music open mic and often get paired in the band to play behind a woman Patsy Cline-ish. She steals the show.

In reply toRe: msg 447
DogsUp

From: DogsUp

10/18/21

All 

1 Baffert suspended for year(s) by Ky review board using 1st sample. Ruled off the course.

2. 2nd split sample contaminated was partly due to and by Ky review board involvement in security chain of custody of the split sample.

Hoofnote: All or most active trainers realize an administrative not intentional drug charge will cripple their livelihood and reputation going forward. 

3. Baffert takes legal action in Ky court system. Evidence (due process) against the defendant was spoiled by prosecutor's (Ky review board) actions.

4. Most cases the matter must be thrown out.

5. Churchill + KDerby matters have Churchill digging their heels in. 

6. NYRA hearing in January. Baffert defending his court order to race in NYRA circuit. *Belmont Stakes.

7. IF court finds Baffert did not get due process due to prosecution proceeding  by Ky board. The KY board is an authority of the Commonwealth of Ky. Mishandled evidence.

8. Oh Man! Oh person!

  • Edited October 18, 2021 1:41 pm  by  DogsUp
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DogsUp

From: DogsUp

10/26/21

And..and Baffert needs an outcome to negate the $9 million sought by bettors that perhaps felt the jaws of defeat ex post facto. No less. 

I've been taken down like a Christmas tree. Not a game for whimps or non risk takers.

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DogsUp

From: DogsUp

10/27/21

NYRA legal has submitted to court counter challenge to Baffert attorney request to amend future NYRA hearing charges. 

NYRA sites to court most recent precedent adjudication of trainer ban:Vitale. Whereas NYRA vs Vitale called upon Vitale's other US track violations and the criminal agregious acts on NYRA grounds.

Prior NYRA ban Richard Dutrow.

If the ointment didn't pass inspection at the 2nd sample appointment, then the evidence will serve as an inconclusive disappointment.

My bet for the day is many products should and are not labeled for the time in a horse's bloodstream. Seems track vets are somewhat non advisory or precautionary to their clients

Scroll UP ^ to read.

https://rulings.gaming.ny.gov/searchrulings.detail.php?ID=30726

  • Edited October 27, 2021 12:22 pm  by  DogsUp
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