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Kentucky Derby 2021 DogsUp Diary   Triple Crown

Started 2/28/21 by DogsUp; 46345 views.
Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Apr-15

I could see him hitting the board.  He’s got some of the best late pace figures in the race and some time very soon we’re going to start seeing graded stakes winners with Tapit as their bms instead of just in the sireline.

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-15

DogsUp said...

ockey is not going to get a tip for serving up a tiring colt Soup + Sanwich in the Florida Derby.

Not on my menu for win. Derby too long to stay fresh, tasty and appealing at KDy distance.

Colt runs early to be in race.

He looked skinny getting off trailer, plus he doesn't change leads, so he loses ground.  Can't do that going the extra distance in the Derby. 
I have no idea what to do with him at this moment, going to watch how he likes CDX and if he changes leads.  

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-15

DogsUp said...

Jockey is not going to get a tip for serving up a tiring colt Soup + Sanwich in the Florida Derby.

Not on my menu for win. Derby too long to stay fresh, tasty and appealing at KDy distance.

Colt runs early to be in race.  

Hold the Mayo.

I think my post got eaten, S&S doesn't change leads and loses ground.  Not a good combo to run extra distance that is derby. I will have to watch him at CDX to see how he is coming along. 

In reply toRe: msg 87
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-15

So here;s what Caddo River's owner had to say:  

John Ed Anthony of Shortleaf Stable the owner of Caddo River is on the fence
about running him back in the Derby. He said he had had to many horses
ruined by running them in the Triple Crown. He said he is leaning toward running him in the Preakness.
  He spoke about Vanlandingham, Demons Begone, Pine Bluff and Prairie Bayou. The last two had to be put down after injuries in the Preakness and Belmont. Demons Begone who had never bled, bled so bad he had to be pulled up in the Derby as the favorite

I don't doubt anything he is saying, as that is his experience.  

What worries me is what does this say about our KY Derby?   I mean, we do know it tends to ruin horses.  For him, it ruined 'em pretty severely.  (I'm sure he will be crucified for being so honest). 
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-15

Pass the derby, he isn't ready, gets rank and nervous close to horses and eye ball to eye ball.

Creative Cause was like that, still racing before he was ready. Afraid of Alphas and cowered

and still finished in the money sometimes half heartly running.

Caddo has talent save him for the Met Mile.

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

Apr-15

Yes yes the humans have egos and wallet thoughts and visions of sugar plums dancing in their heads. Pre and Derby Day.

In reply toRe: msg 90
DogsUp

From: DogsUp

Apr-15

All. Today if had to bet 15 days out

A .Essential Q Win

B. Keys 2nd under: 

Hot Rod C.

Sainthood

C. All. 

then.  And. A/C/B

  • Edited April 16, 2021 12:00 am  by  DogsUp
Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Apr-16

Sainthood?  What do you see there out of curiosity?  
 

 

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-16

Sainthood was at top of my 9 horse derby list I posted the other day though they weren't in order.  I only really like 9 horses right now.   
http://forums.delphiforums.com/horse_racing/messages/?msg=1668.12


What DON'T you see there, so play the devils advocate from the other side if you will.  :wink:   I'd be interested to know why you don't like him. 

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why they like Midnight Bourbon.....I really want/need to know.  :)  Is Mike riding?  What's the deal?
 

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

Apr-16

Go to my comments and even a video of Saint in Ruby stakes.  Post # 70

Sainthood can get out front early, then rate (let others pass)  weave and bob through 19 other runners. Run late.

Moves from tapeta surface in last to my old Kentucky loam May 1.

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