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Ark Derby   Triple Crown

Started Apr-4 by princeofdoc; 2860 views.
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-9

smartyslew said...

I never thought this race would be a joke this year. a gift for somebody.

With his luck probably Baffert's other horse.

10 entrants for the Lexington with Head case Tapit horse Proxy not ready for and passing the Derby

I was hoping he would be in the Arkansas as a stepping stone for the Belmont with maybe

the best pedigree in this bunch for the Belmont with that Tapit P/N pedigree, So far he isn't mentally

sound for the TC. you would think the 9f race would be better than the shorter race.

A red Flag he's still a work in progress.

Reminds me of Solemini........head case, great talent. 

I would love for Hozier to win the AR Derby, only because I'd have an easy/peasy TOSS for the KY Derby.   

I don't think i"ve ever seen an AR Derby with this small of a field, a million $$ and this is all they got.  Wow.   

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-9

smartyslew said...

the best pedigree in this bunch for the Belmont with that Tapit P/N pedigree

Out of all the TC races, for The Belmont in particular, I believe "mentality" is one of the most important components for this race. 

I mean, you watch Secretariat's Belmont and it's just NOT about physicality or breeding...... at all.   He had this incredible mentality.   

Tapits are often nutcases as we know.  Ask Steve Asmussen.....he'll tell ya.  And he's pretty "good" with Tapits.  LOL  (I did actually have this convo with him on a slow day once......)


Guess for now we are "stuck" with  Rombauer, Hidden Agenda, Rock Your World, Rebel's Romance---and I don't mind really.  If the Japan horses come over for that, watch out though.  There are some amazeballs over there.     

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Apr-9

Concert Tour by about 4 lengths in front of Super Stock.  That should be sufficient to make him one of the derby favorites.

I think the Lexington will be a little closer, with Proxy edging out Swiftsure.

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-10

Just a reminder about who needs what.  CT is in the race to run interference for Baffert's other horse so he can make sure to get 2 in the gate at CDX. 

Hosier can run 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, that's all he has to do. 

On the other hand, Caddo River, Get Her Number, Super Stock and Last Samari need to run 1st or 2nd.  No other placing will get them to Knetucky.    These guys will be *trying hard*. 

I am not putting CT first because he doesn't need to run his heart out here right before the KY Derby. 

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

Apr-10

I am playing CT for first here, not worried about how he doesn't need it, rather I think he is that much better than the others, especially his stablemate.  Yes, Hozier would be an easy toss for the Derby, but I don't think he'll fare well today.  I like the others for the tri, especially Caddo and Get.

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

Apr-10

I like Swiftsure here.....and then to go on and be a major competitor in the Preakness, possibly even on the undercard on Derby day.

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Apr-10

I have no idea really.  I’m just looking forward to seeing which one blinks first, Concert Tour or Caddo River.

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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-10

Concert Tour ran exactly as I thought he would.........3rd.   I had a couple tickets and he was 3rd on every one.  

YAY!   

Asmussen wanted to get a horse into the Derby and Caddo River (my guy for the AR Derby) will get enough points. 

I don't really like Caddo River for the Derby though.......to me, he is the perfect Preakness horse.  (but CT isn't going to win the KY Derby either).   

Santana and Geroux, the Oaklawn riders, were't going to go quietly into the night.  They ride there day in and day out. 

Best of all, the tickets paid well w/out CT in the win/place 

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-10

unfortunately I cannot read your tickets. 

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