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It doesn’t bother you that an api-ran has never won the Belmont? I think if I bet it at all it’s just going to be another $20 on Rombauer lol. And even then probably only if he goes off at least 4-1 or so.
Not at all I like this better Whats in the 5 generations
I use before The Sire and Bms Nicks its what is fed from the Engine room
the 6th and 7th Generation In this case all of the sires and Mares from family
branches 13c and family 2f 9 of one and 7 of the other within the 5 generations
8 from family 1x is a bonus and seven (7) foundation of family 8 and 5 meets the
Standards I use. Also I like at least 2 daughters Of big red in the window of time
today, but there is 3 daughters of big red all in the 4th generations Dams of Sires all in the 3rd
Generation API, Gone West, Storm Cat all 3 from different Sire Lines, 2 on the dam side one on the Sire line, one in the Bms line, Storm Cat bred to the 3rd Dam 1x who also traces to Princequillo and LaTroienne.
for me this trumps Sire/Bms nicks. when the occasion comes up.
Essential Quality Tapit/ Mr P 1x(8)3o,13c(9) 7 2f, (7)
Wasn't confident on 2nd/3rd, so made my third largest win bet ever on EQ. loved 9/5 as they loaded, disappointed in 6/5. Trakus data supported the tri, but I tried to get creative with the 8 in all spots.
The odds were all wrong for my strategy, see my message 173 for performance numbers
My pedigree angles stopped me from using those top 4 , Hot rod Charlie was fit like the winner
He was last on my ped score and I kept looking at 12f , and thought it was to far for Itm
But the 4 fittest came in. I Didn't bet EQ it was so stupid. I passed. Congrats on your win !
Essential Quality showed the field what happens when you have a superior quality 12F horse on the track.
I bet he'd do fine on the grass? They should send him over to some classy races on the lawn over the pond.
I can never understand the big drop in odds AFTER the race goes.....seems like with everything computerized, prices should be immediate.
I found a bet on line Thursday that had EQ at 2.60, so I made my bet then, quite happily.....
The 7.50-1 on the exacta was rather low, but the 21-1 on the tri was better....and the 60-1 on the super was very good, all things considered
Ended on a High Note..for sure..
But is it over...
Who won the Derby?..
Mr P / Nor Dancer
That was easy..
Starting with message 121 in this thread I scored the angles that worked and the ones that didn't
work for the Belmont stakes this year, for those interested in both performance angles and pedigree
scoring from placements in a pedigree that work for the belmont.