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2021 Epsom Derby   European Racing

Started Jun-1 by SameSteve G; 4763 views.
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-3

Which Dam has 8 Stake  Winners and is a Rasmussen Factor in the 3rd Generation

in one of the entrants ?

2 of her sons won the Epsom !!!

ShaddyisBack

From: ShaddyisBack

Jun-3

thanks for putting this up. Although looking at these PP I dont see a lot you can use to separate these horses, other than speed figures

ShaddyisBack

From: ShaddyisBack

Jun-3

Mrs. Prospector ?

I think if you like Mac Swiney, then dont forget ONE RULER... 

I know NONE of these Jockeys... Like "buick" did he get off of One ruler or ON Hurricane lane... Is Doyle better than Buick ?

Anyway, sticking my nose in where it doesnt belong... Have a good summer guys

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

Jun-3

No doubt, a plus.  I just rewatched the Irish 2000 Guineas from May 22 & he led throughout & was all out to hold off his rivals.  A very nice win on soft/heavy going.  It appears he enjoys the soft, the heavy and the yielding going.  That's when he wins.   When he meets good ground, he is beaten rather soundly.  The going is rated good at Epsom (as of today & projected to Saturday)

I'm ambivalent about him since he also likes to run prominently.  No Dettori, BTW.  I misread the Racing Post card.  Kevin Manning has the ride.

I think he's currently 7-1 at OddsChecker.   I do not think Jim Bolger would have entered him unless he thinks he has a solid shot.  Hmmm.

I prefer Hurricane Lane.  :)

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-3

His best numbers are soft , very high as you know. Looks higher than others on firmer.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Jun-3

yes sir ? Did you find the contender ?

BTW she won the Arc !

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Jun-4

Oh yeah.  I noticed early that those two sons are in his sireline and bmsireline.

In reply toRe: msg 11
Gerh

From: Gerh

Jun-4

Snowfall was phenomenal.I played a 4 horse exacta box with Zeyaadah,Willow,Divenely and Save A Forest.While Snowfall made some sense , there was no way I was coming up with Mystery Angel.Great to see Frankie going strong at 50.

In reply toRe: msg 24
SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

Jun-4

Gerh said:

Great to see Frankie going strong at 50.

Without a doubt!  What a stellar career.  Perhaps you've seen it already, but there is a wonderful little article in which Frankie talks about his early days at the track in the UK, meeting Steve Cauthen & the extent to which he considers Cauthen one of his mentors.  How much he learned & the fun they had.  If you search Franke Dettori Steve Cauthen you can find it if you're interested.

Looks like the surface has been downgraded to good to soft.  The softer the better tomorrow for Mac Swiney.

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