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2021 2 year olds Handicapping
From: Northof64
May-11
Being retired and a couple of trips to the Caribbean helps! Sunday night we still had the wood burner going and yesterday was in the mid 80’s and we plan on putting the ac in. No spring this year. Packer season ticket holder after waiting 23 years 4 months and 4 days. Packer fan yes but not as much as when I was younger. Now if they lose it doesn’t ruin my day or anything else. All good, Life’s good. North
From: ChiefsCrown
May-11
Being up here near Buffalo you'd think i'm a Bills fan, not. Wife is. Lifelong Boston Patriots and Kansas City Chiefs fan since 1960. Still the only 2 i sit down for with a couple of cocktails and watch.
More of a hockey fan with the lengthy snowbound winters here. 80 today and the next 3 days i'll take it!!
From: smartyslew
May-11
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| STAKES. 1 1/8 Mile Dirt. Purse $200,000. Peter Pan S. (Grade 3). FOR THREE YEAR OLDS. Non-Lasix Race pursuant to 4043.2 (7)(e)(5) Lasix not permitted within 48 hours of post time. By subscription of $200 each which should accompany the nominations; $1,000 to pass the entry box and an additional $1,000 to start. For horses not originally nominated, a supplemental nomination payment of $1,000 (along with the entry and starting fees) may be made at any time prior to the closing of entries. The purse to be divided 55% to the owner of the winner, 20% to second, 12% to third, 6% to fourth, 4% to fifth and 3% divided equally amongst the remaining finishers. For original Triple Crown Nominees NYRA will waive the entry and starting fees to the Belmont Stakes for the first two finishers of the Peter Pan. Weight: 123 lbs. Non-winners of $90,000 at a mile or over in 2022 allowed 3 lbs.; of a Sweepstake other than state-bred at a mile or over or two races other than maiden, claiming, starter or state-bred allowance allowed 5 lbs. A trophy will be presented to the winning owner. Closed Saturday, April 30, 2022 with 29 Original Nominations and 1 Supplement. (05:19 PM) (8) |
| PP | Horse | A/S | M/E | Wgt | Jockey | Trainer |
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| 1 | Set Sail E6 | 3 C | 118 | Rosario Joel | Mandella Richard E. 7-2 | |
| 2 | Electability E5 | 3 G | 118 | Ortiz, Jr. Irad | Brown Chad C. 7-2 | |
| 3 | Complete Agenda S5 | 3 C | 118 | Ortiz Jose L. | Pletcher Todd A. 8-1 | |
| 4 | We The People E6 | 3 C | 118 | Prat Flavien | Brisset Rodolphe 3-1 | |
| 5 | Golden Glider P3 | 3 C | 118 | Davis Dylan | Casse Mark E. 4-1 | |
| 6 | Western RiverSo | 3 C | 118 | Saez Luis | Brisset Rodolphe 6-1 | |
| 7 | Cooke Creek p4 | 3 C | b | 120 | Franco Manuel | O'Dwyer Jeremiah 15-1 |
| 8 | State PlanningS2 | 3 C | 118 | McCarthy Trevor |
Vazquez Juan C 15-1 |
- Edited May 12, 2022 3:52 pm by smartyslew
From: RAESFAN
May-12
We The People - Seemed a bit too keyed up in the Ark. Derby, then was wide through out, so throw out! This is my pick!
From: smartyslew
May-12
I haven't looked the field over . Mandella's horse caught my eye earlier in the year,
I will check the replay on your horse thanks for the idea !
From: smartyslew
May-13
Final for message 1107:
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Pars 91 97/89 speed 97 None Peter Pan G3
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run style E races won 38% EP 42%P 12% S 8%, no EP entered
Post bias Rail 19%, 1-3 19%, 4-7 14%, 8+ 0.00
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Early Pace :
Late Pace 99 Western River 94 Electability 92 Complete Agenda 92 Golden Glider 89 State Planning 87 Set Sail 71 We the People 50 Cooke Creek
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Last Quarter 25.40> faster : Electability(E5) 8f- 24.98 L, We The People(E) 2 back ,last g1,8.5f- 24.27-L,
Western River (So) 8.5 f,25.00 Lb, , Cook Creek (P4)N/A 2 bad off tracks No L BG last
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Only Mdn winner: Set Sail, Complete Agenda, Western River,
Cooke Creek 2 G3 71,86,
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Box these 4 or wheel: Set Sail (pedigree play) We The People, Golden Glider, Electability with Cooke Creek
underneath
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Belmont Park - Saturday, May 14th, 2022 9th race Prep for the Belmont
| STAKES. 1 1/8 Mile Dirt. Purse $200,000. Peter Pan S. (Grade 3). FOR THREE YEAR OLDS. Non-Lasix Race pursuant to 4043.2 (7)(e)(5) Lasix not permitted within 48 hours of post time. By subscription of $200 each which should accompany the nominations; $1,000 to pass the entry box and an additional $1,000 to start. For horses not originally nominated, a supplemental nomination payment of $1,000 (along with the entry and starting fees) may be made at any time prior to the closing of entries. The purse to be divided 55% to the owner of the winner, 20% to second, 12% to third, 6% to fourth, 4% to fifth and 3% divided equally amongst the remaining finishers. For original Triple Crown Nominees NYRA will waive the entry and starting fees to the Belmont Stakes for the first two finishers of the Peter Pan. Weight: 123 lbs. Non-winners of $90,000 at a mile or over in 2022 allowed 3 lbs.; of a Sweepstake other than state-bred at a mile or over or two races other than maiden, claiming, starter or state-bred allowance allowed 5 lbs. A trophy will be presented to the winning owner. Closed Saturday, April 30, 2022 with 29 Original Nominations and 1 Supplement. (05:19 PM) (8) |
| PP | Horse | A/S | M/E | Wgt | Jockey | Trainer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Set Sail E6 2-1-1 | 3 C | 118 | Rosario Joel | Mandella Richard E. 7-2 90 mdn 67 1st L | |
| 2 | Electability E5 3-2-0 | 3 G | 118 | Ortiz, Jr. Irad | Brown Chad C. 7-2 92 Ocl 1st L | |
| 3 | Complete Agenda S5 5-1-1-1 | 3 C | 118 | Ortiz Jose L. | Pletcher Todd A. 8-1 86 mdn 80 1st Lb | |
| 4 | We The People E6 3-2-0 | 3 C | 118 | Prat Flavien | Brisset Rodolphe 3-1 92 Ocl 80 1st 2 back L |
From: cubs.fan
May-14
Post mortem look back at prep pace parameters, found this interesting in support of the winner. 4th quarter time in final prep, equalized for ground loss.
Feet Traveled: 4Q-Equ-Time
Mo Donegal 23.24
Rich Strike 23.41
Epicenter 23.74
Tiz the Bomb 23.97
Taiba 24.19
Tawny Port 24.23
Zandon 24.39
Messier 24.42
Zozos 24.55
Smile Happy 24.68
Pioneer of Medina 24.89
Happy Jack 25.08
White Abarrio 25.11
Crown Pride (JPN) 25.27
Charge It 25.46
Simplification 25.59
Cyberknife 25.63
Summer is Tomorrow 25.98
Barber Road 25.98
Classic Causeway 27.33
From: smartyslew
May-14
Sweet pick Raes, I thought the field would be more competitive, by far the best in here.
Big challenge next if he goes in the Belmont. Another case of Jumping up before Summer time
for 3 year olds. The way the breeders are changing, I look for more late bloomers going forward
this summer and I hope its a new trend and saying that, I could be wrong and it might be a 3 or 4
yearly thing.