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2022 2-year-olds/2023 3-year-olds   Handicapping - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 345301 views.
sovereign1

From: sovereign1

6/11/22

But these are 2nd generation Tapits, not products directly from the source. grin

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/11/22

Tapit is part of what I call the Seattle Slew Nick who is part of the Bold Ruler Nick back to the 1970.s

Tapit Pulpit APIndy  Seattle Slew  always in the first 3 generations, always in a 5 generation pedigree for a Tapit winner
For a Tapit son  First 4 generations counting Tapit, they all have strong female lines in this sire line

Bms line Unbridled, Fappiano, Mr P will be in his Progeny 5 generation chart, like they were for tapit
Tapit is a Tapit Pulpit API Slew/ Unbridled Fappiano  Mrp Sire Nick

with Nijinsky CS, Secretariat Le Fabuleux  P, In Reality in there 5 generation, you lose all of Tapits 5th generation
to be in his progenys 5th generation, But you get Their Progeny that have some strong females.

We The People has this plus Tiznow  Constitution/ Tiznow Same as Tiz The Law the 9f Belmont Winner
Barber Road has The Race Day Tapit/ Halo Nick with Princequillo in a passing position

Also you have some strong Curlin Smart Strike Mr P, line in here
Rich Strike with the Powerful Gold Digger 13c Rasmussen Factor With 2 lines of Mr P one on each side
and his full Brother Search For Gold on the Dam Side both with Blue Larkspur in a Pp.
Mr P has Smart Strike on both side who has Curlin And Rich Strikes Dam Gold Strike can't get any closer then that.

Skippy has Exaggerator Curlin Smart Strike Mr P/ War Chant Danzig Northern Dancer ,strong Belmont Nick


Nest has a strong  Curlin /Api  Belmont Nick with 12 blue line Mare's in 5 generations with 6 lines of possible
Xfactor Large Heart. she had the fastest last 1/8  in this field in her last race.

k

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/11/22

past Belmont Winners 4 of the tapits are P/N

Essential Quality  Tapit/Elusive Quality Gone West Mr P  2021
Tiz The Law  Constitution Tapit / Tiznow P/N  9f  2020 

Tapwrit  Tapit/  In Reality P/N 2017
Creator Tapit/ Damascus Teddy   P/N 2016
Tonalist Tapit/ Pleasant Colony His Majesty Ribot  P/N 2014
Rags To Riches  API Seattle Slew/ Deputy Minister Vice Regent Northern Dancer 2007
2006-1994 Mr P and Northern Dancer Dominated
AP Indy  Seattle Slew/ Secretariat  1992  

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/11/22

I did a Lasix free Trifecta Box with Nest, Rich Strike, Mo Donegal, Barber Road

and a Exacta box Rich Strike Nest

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/11/22

Don't overlook message 1193 that list the contenders in this race that has a winning Belmont Nick (Sire/Bms Line)
Nest  Rich Strike  We The People Skippy

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/11/22

Well of course MoW and Hyperion are but WtP and Skippy are the only two in the race that have a dam in their tail first five generations that have one of those two sirelines.  8 of the last 11 winners had the same.  That was as far as I got lol.  Da ‘Tara too but not Sarava I don’t think.  

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

6/11/22

Da ‘Tara had Hyp twice.

princeofdoc

From: princeofdoc

6/11/22

I love Nest here.....will be boxing with a few

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

6/13/22

The Belmont Stakes this year pre race was full of misinformation
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Brought to our attention by Steve G. race week.
He noted how the ML was off, Others included my self noted how other 
numbers were off that people pay for that were off mostly in my View
The last race info and Classification made for style was off for the last race.
Pre race The derby winner took himself out of contention in my view and some had that
baked in before it happened, also in my view The cappers as a group were the leading indicator of getting the race right. I mean The race Time favorite Won, where is the
ML Favorite a Front runner wins last on a good wet sealed  track g3@9f after
in Previous race G1 7th place in the Arkansas Derby and finished 4th Lone Speed
faded after 10f in only his 5th race tough for an Apollo(ML) horse a good effort, First 2 finishers are 10f type, and I think if Nest hadn't Stumbled, Bumped and Rush up to get a better position would of given Mo Donegal all he could handle, instead losing by 3 lengths.
Nest a legit 10f runner will be running in 9f  races against 9f types and with luck
might win some of them . imo
sovereign1

From: sovereign1

6/13/22

Who made the M/L for The Belmont? Battaglia again?

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