I want to point out something about that 20 variant and +10 for Forte in the Jim Dandy. The only race they had to compare the Jim Dandy to was an off the turf allowance. That’s why he was +10 for that race. He also received a career best speed figure for that race. I pay more attention to speed figures that are made on big race days. If you go to DRF and click results, then charts scroll to Saratoga 26th. It will give you a list of charts from that day. It will also have a link for track variant. On Saturday there was six different variants. Race 9&10 have their own variant because the dirt track was sealed for those 2 races. Each race on grass was given its own variant because turf conditions changed. Dirt races 1,2,4,6,7,12,13 all have a variant of 10. Every big race day Forte, Tapit Trice, Disarm, Angel of Empire have similar speed figures. There was 7 races to compare, and arrive at a figure on Saturday. Jim Dandy only 1 race to compare. Pay attention to figures earned on big race days because there are more races to compare and the figure is more accurate. I saw your post Saturday, but I didn’t have time explain this to you.

That 105 is more reliable than the 106 for Forte.

Thanks for the in put I'm good, you don't need to explain it to me. thanks for your concern

To many other factors like signs of being a right sided horse, He shouid be racing to the right imo

love the horse, he hates being to the left of any body, runs the bends wide to the right.

I didn;t like post one for him. 1st thing he did was go the the right and raced wide again.

Pletcher putting Blinkers on in that one race did not help him go left.

Like Steve says The Japanese trains them going both directions and this is helpful

to all horses that are left sided  and right sided horses,

Bruno said Dixie Union and I'll Have Another are the best examples of left sided horses

and this is just my opinion about Forte . Its more than just Variants.

Most of his Variants are running further than anyone else and I couldn't pick him

for my main reason that the vatiant doesn't say.

Travers  results  from Linebreeding nicks

1st Arcangelo   Fappiano/ Tapit   lines

2nd Disarm    Fappiano /Tapit

3rd Taptit Trice  Tapit/  Fappiano

4th Forte   Sadlers Wells/ Roberto  line

Mr P / thru API lines rule this race Thru  Fappiano and Tapit. 

From message 2441 How I  finally played the Travers. I do not want to red board since I didn't
make up my mind until before the start ,I didn't like the Track Conditions.

I will show you a couple of dated tickets from my account since i didn't say before hand

who i was betting and that won't be redboarding after the race without proof,

When Arc odds went to 5-2 late I put money on him, and the last bet a exacta with Arc, Disarm and Mage.

How my pedigree scoring did in the travers from post 2443.

My Pedigree scoring for the Travers Field for the day they were born
without rating them for their distance run and before meds were used
and any special feed, works, etc First to last best Pedigree IMO.
A very tight group. All G1 elite prospects all hitting the floor on Foal day. 
EDIT : 3 of the top 4 were in the Superfecta , missed 2nd place

1 Arcangelo  won

2 Mage

3 Tapit Trice  3rd

4 Forte   4th

5 Scotland

6 National Treasure

7 Disarm   2nd place,

How The variants did in the travers  Message 2444

I don't go by the numbers alone and watch the replays to mark each ones trip
Before  we had all these 21st Century speed numbers the variant is what I was weaned on
1950's to 1992 .........when Beyers numbers came out where I was we thought this was a joke
they didn't work on our track, and we were competitive at the major tracks and I spent a lot of
time in Reno and Lake Tahoe 60's, 70's, 80's and on the books at some Casinos. in the 90's I got
Ill and stayed home in the OTB's close to home. Even had one of my mentors close by for a few years.
He thought Beyer was a retard. Back to the Variants .. I liked the Variants for Arc 3 + races different variants
2 gr races. Forte was ok with 2 races +2 if he ran st. would be much better the one hole inside no thanks
he doesn't like that. Disarm 2 plus es and one -1  ok , and Scotland varients ok. the rest were not good Imo
Disarm came in second and I liked it for 2nd place. no Scotland for me.

How Message 2437 did in the Travers

More on this later. EDIT See Next Message.

10th Race- Del Mar - Saturday, September 2nd, 2023