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He is 15-1 in the first futures pool.No Baffert horses listed
100-1 a few days ago in Las Vegas, he was well under the radar until this pool came out
Suggest Behind the scenes they are talking about him a lot. If your a future player
William Hills the place to look for Gamblers if you like him. 15-1 is N/A this time of year.
With Romans as the trainer,he will be given every possible opportunity to secure a spot in the starting gate
Took a look at the KY Derby Futures lists. For both horses, fillies and sires.
Classic Empire not listed in the future sires list.
Nor are the Classic Empire progeny I like listed in the derby futures.
Strange. That they didn't include.
Classic Empire was nursing a bad foot since before the ARKIE Derby. And was kept out of the Belmont due to that foot problem, so Casse could never race him at the level he wanted to. That was a gorgeous pedigree and I wish he had not been nursing that bad abcessed foot since he never got to show his true abilities.
anyway, I love him as a sire, and I like his colt, Classic Moment. Plenty enough classicity w/Fappiano-Unbridled-Empire Maker-PON on sire side; then tons of speed on the mare's side. Then, plenty of HOYs in this guy's pedigree as well as Broodmare of the Year Leslie's Lady. 23b family
Interestingly, Classic Empire did well in KY (Churchill and Keenland) exactly where Classic Moment is doing well. He may end up being too sprinty, guess we'll see. .
Message 354 is our Kentucky Derby to stretch out list and waiting in the Wings
to stretch out list .
Kentucky Jockey Club had 4 entrants from this list Waiting in the wings had the Winner
Smile Happy 1st, White Abarrio- 3rd, The Main list had Classic Causeway -2nd place
Howling Time -5th place. Boxing Those 4 paid the Trifecta; $1 pd $127.10
If you took the time to look over this list(message 352) for the Central Park Stakes Race 7 on the Turf 8.5 f, yesterday , this has the Male turfers on it . projected to move up. The first 4 finishers
were the only ones on this list Sy Dog 1st, Ohtwoohthreefive 2nd, Maseta 3rd, General Ken 4th
$1 Super $1520.00.
I suggest using my lists to see if they are entered in a race, It could be worth it.
I have found with 2 yr olds to have better luck with Boxes than keying, wheeling that works better
for me , 2 yr olds are growing and can take turns reaching the next rung on the ladder
Born January to June depending what month they start racing is tough to gauge where a horse is
maturing. Keys and wheels work better for me with mature horses racing that are fit.
Once in a while and maybe one or two a year will stand out and I might key them if I think they are special.
35-1 noon time PST today, 3 hrs to go.
I was a little surprised they left Corniche off, so I would assume he is gone for good for KD. Glad to see they did that. I did notice on the sires Quality Road is pretty low so maybe that has some effect there, don't know any others up there with QR.
I was not going to bet the future, but went ahead and put a small one down on Rattle and Roll. Giant Game is not one I would bet for the KD GC over an MTR does not scream that to me to bet on this far out.