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RAESFAN said...I chose the wrong Asmussen. I should have known to pick the Tapit.
I just don't follow his horses anymore until the last minute. He's got so many barns in so many places and races at so many tracks.....NY, Chicago, KY, TX, Lousiana, Arkansas.....must be at least 250 horses or more?
1,613 starts in 2021 or something like that......I know they're not all 3 year olds but still....18,560,649 earnings in 2021 alone.
For comparison, somebody like Mandella trains around 40 or so. Shug around 80.
Its gotten out of hand for me in many ways.
Pletcher and Baffert also have a lot of horses. No way they can manage all of them. They obviously have people responsible for the day to day operations, but they get the lion’s share of the accolades and the compensation!
Most of those decisions are financial......it makes it possible to have the large staff, the premium stables at the top tracks, and the services of the best jocks. In addition, if you have a large number of 2 yr. old colts and fillies, the chances are much better that one of them can become great.
It's a little like the mom 'n pop stores vs. the chains.....many people may prefer to see the smaller barns flourish, yet they may also shop at Costco
Horse won impressive at Sar yesterday..
My bad...she a filly
Just watched a juvy MSW for fillies at Arlington/ Catalano has an MTR named Dressed, that looked very good in an off the turf race at 8.5f. She ran second in her debut behind another MTR who I absolutely was looking forward to due to her works, by the name of Plus Chic. This race flattered her as Dressed won at 3/5. She broke from the rail, was stuck behind traffic for a while, so the jock took back and then circled the leaders to win under a hand ride by about 3. Can't wait to see Plus Chic switch to the main track and stretch out, even though it is all weather. Two nice fillies that may one day get to match up against better out east.
Thanks, Fillys are good,
Thanks I'll check it out.
I still have your lists from pre races, About 4 unraced lists, this year my list on here
are runners only, It seems to be easier than a projected list of mostly blue bloods
or deep pocket purchases. At an early age when they race and they improve or digress they can
work there way back on the list 5f, 6f, 8f, 9f, 10f, etc . They don't have to win to get on the list
ITM , trips , strong turn of foot etc. The longer the races the easier to pick, and 5 or 6 in the same race will eliminate some .
princeofdoc said...the premium stables at the top tracks
What is your definition of *premium*?
Japan Racing at Miho and Ritto Training Centers is premim ---- every aspect was built with the horse's well-being in mind. They are drug free when racing. "Amenities for the horses at Miho : "60-meter indoor swimming pool. And if, after a dip, winter winds cast a chill, it’s no problem. Horses dry off under a hot-air fan before returning to their stalls. There are water treadmills, and a fully staffed hospital w/30 on-site veterinarians, a forest with trails and a waterfall, training ovals with different courses, and a steep slope course specifically designed for developing endurance. They are not even exposed to pollution from cars and buses (realizeing that horses are sensitive). The hospital is latest-greatest.......a grown man can fit his forearm into one of the equine nebulizer masks, and you could park a forklift on the X-ray platform. The training courses are given extra bounce to reduce wear and tear on horses’ legs. At Miho’s periphery, recorded birdsong warbles forth from speakers along a verdant walking path — tapes are even switched to match the season. Parched horses can quench their thirst at a scenic waterfall nearby. Aside from the rolling pastures of Hokkaido, where the vast majority of Japanese racehorses are bred, this is as close to equine heaven as it gets......"
“It’s definitely the best I’ve ever worked at,” said Lisa Mumby, 26, a New Zealand jockey. "They look after the horse and treat it like an animal with feelings.”
Its the antithesis to the utter dysfunction of American racing in every way. They run a clean sport.
US racing OTOH is like playing the stock market w/out a Securities and Exchange Commission to oversee it.
And that is why the amount of money wagered on Japanese racing is about triple the amount wagers on American tracks despite American tracks running 3x as many races and the US having 3x the population of Japan.
Rachel Alexandra like I said in the other topic, was burned out and not even turned out to pasture. She was kept at the racetrack and her "vacation" was in a round pen over at the backside. This is what people like Jackson do. She was an "investment" and they juiced the lemon.
I cried over her.
Well-bred colts contested the 1st at SAR today, and Pletcher has a good one in Major General.....looked like he was passed, and he came back to win first out easily. Well prepared, well ridden Constitution colt should continue to impress.
On the other hand, Asmussen's million $$ colt, Raymond, ran like s**t. Broke well, contested the lead, and faded to the back without much left.