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NYRA and CDI vs. Beta Bob General Discussions

Started 9/10/21 by SameSteve G; 13357 views.

Msg 18 of 132 to smartyslewsmartyslew

In reply toRe: msg 17

From: DogsUp

9/15/21

If scenario is Baffert goes to Kentucky court after Commission ruling against him; citing no due process because the Commision in part spoiled the evidence. Yes that's a big number of future lost income and reputation. Maybe as much as 30 years

Saved this one: Churchill uses the Derby points as leverage to deal with the above scenario if Bob gets off due to lack of evidence corrupted in concert by the KY Commission itself.

Churchill has to pay fans $124 mil to fans for slot machines SNAFU.

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Msg 20 of 132 to Plus2lbsPlus2lbs

In reply toRe: msg 19

From: SameSteve G

9/16/21

Then we won't miss him will we? Like you say, he only ships in to pull down fat purses. I think the sport would be far better off with Baffert out of it, but that's just me.

Edited to add: I agree with your central point about NYRA requiring improved product. Wholeheartedy.

Edited September 16, 2021 5:58 pm by SameSteve G

Msg 21 of 132

In reply toRe: msg 20

From: TexSquared

9/21/21

Why bother having rules when they can't be enforced?

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/253454/baffert-hearing-could-lead-to-contempt-charge-for-nyra

Msg 22 of 132 to TexSquaredtexsquared

In reply toRe: msg 21

From: SameSteve G

9/22/21

Or, they could put Baffert's lawyers in charge of the rules. {smirk}

Rule 1. - Even when he's guilty, Beta Bob is innocent.

Rule 2. - See rule 1.

I rest my case, your honor.

Msg 23 of 132 to SameSteve GSameSteve G

In reply toRe: msg 22

From: pianot

9/22/21

Well said. Deck is pretty well stacked.

Msg 24 of 132 to pianotpianot

In reply toRe: msg 23

From: SameSteve G

9/23/21

Soap operas like this don't do US racing any good, just like having a horse test positive for a banned substance in the Kentucky Derby doesn't do racing any good, either.

Msg 25 of 132 to SameSteve GSameSteve G

In reply toRe: msg 24

From: TexSquared

9/23/21

So next time a Baffert horse wins a stakes race, how many split samples do they need? I'd say at least 4.

Samples 1 and 2 so that if #1 is positive the state's lab can test #2 to make sure it's the same. If both are positive:

Sample 3 goes to Baffert's lawyers so they can come up with their own rigged test.

Sample 4 goes to the IOC or FEI or some other international organization, independent of the racing industry (preferably not in North America), so they can test it.

Oh yes, the above isn't just urine. Also take blood, saliva, and hair samples (4 each).