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The kit-and-kaboodle of TC Season   Triple Crown

Started Apr-27 by Wintertrian; 499 views.
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-27

The joy of TC season for me, unlike handicapping races at my home track Oaklawn every racing day, is to get my nose out from under the PPs and figures and all that headache-producing stuff, and spend at least part of the weeks leading up to the TC races, luxuriating in the whole "kit-and-kaboodle" of what makes horse racing so magnificent and fun.   

One of my favorite things about TC races is the backstories on trainers, their barn crews, the owners, or neat little factoids about the horses that aren't widely known, their quirks, their personalities, etc. Who lost a shoe in a race that wasn't widely publicized.   Details are actually important.  I think this is why Kerry Thomas's product on the Emotional Conformation of horses has been so well received......people want to know what is going on "in there", what outward signs mean, etc.  Not just horses as numbers. 

here's a heck of a lot of interesting stories out there, and many of them really *endear* you to certain barns and people and horses.   For me, picking horses that I can also support in my "heart" is important.  Because if they do win, I just feel so good about it.   

In years past the stories and training methods that the foreign invaders use, I have learned so much about how things are done elsewhere.   Remember Casino Drive running up and down hills with wood chips for fitness?   Lani's pink boots, de Kocks training methods, or how the barns in dubai are open on many sides thus cutting down on breathing ailments in the horses, ........all of it.    How owners come to own horses, and why they chose certain ones, who helped them, etc.  One owner this year said he and his buddies were tired of losing wagers on tracks and that is how they combined their meager $$ to buy their first racehorse.  The bad-boy horses who try to bite or toss their riders, the ones that get loose, the silly ones who love their baths and whinny loudly during them. 

This is part of the whole "kit and kaboodle" for me......I don't want to just stick my nose into PPs for these races, as it would just be like drudgery.    I research all the stories, the backstories, the ins and outs.  We really don't have access, time, or information to do much of this during the year.   To me it's like luxuriating at a spa, but the spa is filled with horses and people and stories instead of mineral water.  

How Tami Bobo got into pinhooking to put food on the table as a single mom, etc.   Here's one of the Oaklawn trainers I just love.   Barber Road's trainer.  I think he's a doll.  A very good person in every way, I have to root for his horse.  This article is just so uplifting.  He "gets it right" as far as I'm concerned.
https://trainermagazine.com/north-american-trainer-articles/john-alexander-ortiz-barber-road/2022/2/17

ANYWAY, take some time and post up some interesting facts, articles, or neat stories you come across during this wonderful Triple Crown Season.  It's like Thanksgiving dinner with all the trimmings for me.  We all get analysis paralysis at some point, time to indulge our other senses. 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-28

NBC Should have Hired you years ago instead of Having Bob Costas trying for an Emmy telling Back Stories from the Flower Garden

Watching him that year During The Post parade instead of the Cameras on the Horses before they were on  their way to the gate.

Cappers like that all done before the Post Parade preferably the day before.

He didn't get his Emmy, I Like Your chances better.

DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

Apr-28

Amen to that Me Too.

I like grinding it out...right down to the nuts and bolts and firing up the blow torch; and boiling down the math and science equations to the ultimate Trifecta ticket construction. Right up til The Saturday morning.

Yet as our friend here said before her passing; it is a simple gift of a foolish pleasure.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

Apr-28

Very cool story of Eddie Martin Jr., the very fine retired jockey hooking up with Steve Asmussen and playing an integral role in the development of Epicenter.   He doesn't ride Epicenter in the mornings.  He rides Gun it, the workmate, to insure perfect workouts in the times Steve prescribes.

https://youtu.be/z-aBiH5sojw

Not so secret weapon.

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SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G

Apr-28

Clay Courville, son of trainer, Rick Courville, who handles Un Ojo, all of 25 years old and the self-professed "one man band" living the dream with his horse.  What a great kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9Xn6usb7E

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

May-2

 

SameSteve G said...

Very cool story of Eddie Martin Jr., the very fine retired jockey hooking up with Steve Asmussen and playing an integral role in the development of Epicenter.   He doesn't ride Epicenter in the mornings.  He rides Gun it, the workmate, to insure perfect workouts in the times Steve prescribes.

https://youtu.be/z-aBiH5sojw

Not so secret weapon.

Clay Courville, son of trainer, Rick Courville, who handles Un Ojo, all of 25 years old and the self-professed "one man band" living the dream with his horse.  What a great kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9Xn6usb7E

Indeed!  Great stories!     We need a stories-type topic here every TC season for sure.  To recognize that bringing a horse to the TC races is a long and arduous task, and there are many hands, not just trainers, who spend a ton of time with these champions. 

So you, and the other "words persons" here.........  We need a name for it, like a headline.  It will always be good to get our noses out of the PPs and You Tube every season and I will dilligently post the topic title every year in the Triple Crown topic if we can "officially name it."  

So what does everyone think for a topic?  Doesn't need to be right now, if brains are working better after the KY Derby.  We all have some down time after that. 

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