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Kentucky Derby 2021 DogsUp Diary   Triple Crown

Started 2/28/21 by DogsUp; 58620 views.
Gerh

From: Gerh

4/20/21

Did you see Midnight Bourbon got loose for a while yesterday.He seemed to enjoy himself

Northof64

From: Northof64

4/20/21

Hidden Stash posted a higher bris at 1 1/16 vs 1 1/8 this year. FYI we have discussed this in the past that when that happens they typically do not hit the trifecta.

ChiefsCrown

From: ChiefsCrown

4/20/21

Good to hear about the weather on May 1. 

DogsUp

From: DogsUp

4/20/21

Looks like the rain late April will be it. But...There is a big card on Friday and the stepping might not be totally corrected 'a machina.*

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  • Edited April 20, 2021 11:11 am  by  DogsUp
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DogsUp

From: DogsUp

4/20/21

I'm gonna start out with the notion that on a given day  about 3 Favs of a 9 card Win.

I'm taking a look back at when Ky Derby fav did not win for 20 yes.

I'm Lookin at 7 Derby winners M/L + post favorite win. *DQ +.

Last not fav 2012 I'll Have Another. 

Yet, the consecutive conundrum syndrome was would the same jock, first Derby mount on IHA scores a win; and would his next leg up in the saddle with Nyquist be..Another? And yes it was. Gotta be a record as of late.

The 2 recent long shot 50-1 Derby winners had the quintessential riders aboard Giacomo/Mike Smith and Mine That Bird/Mr Kentucky Derby Cal Borel.

And WADR. .if this Derby turns into the favorite breaking the Win streak of 7. Not  winning or worse..IN A ROW..it will be due to premise above...surgical ride by top jocks. Yet..Fav jock is top fav and did *win ridding Max Security.

To be continued.

  • Edited April 20, 2021 12:00 pm  by  DogsUp
Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/20/21

Northof64 said...

Hidden Stash posted a higher bris at 1 1/16 vs 1 1/8 this year. FYI we have discussed this in the past that when that happens they typically do not hit the trifecta.

Yup, remember the year we started that experiment together. Who else?

What did you think about my new theory about checking sprinting speed as youngsters?   Seems like that would clue in to something, but not really sure.  LOL  Yes, they have moved on to routing......but what if they have to squeeze that last bit o' speed out at the very end?  Would not high speed sprinting abilitiy help there?

Northof64

From: Northof64

4/20/21

I took a quick peek and only found the one ( Hidden Stash) for now. I will try to take another look in a bit. The thing is we said as a 3 year old according to my notes and can’t remember if a shorter distance counts like the Gotham or if it needs to be 1 1/16. (Whats the dif right?) I will be using Bris. I’m in the middle of moving this week two hours away to retire in northern Wisconsin (Northof64) so I have scatter brains and limited time. Trying to check in when I take a breather. Great analogy  on sprinting and Zenyata was a perfect  example!! 

Northof64

From: Northof64

4/20/21

Ok please feel free to double check an correct if needed. Others are Mandaloun, Get her number, Hozier, Caddo River( but at a mile), the following two posted the same figure at 1 1/8 and a shorter distance this year. Soup and Sandwich and Highly Motivated. For the sake of splitting hairs I guess those last two are technically ok. Gotta go!!

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/20/21

Northof64 said...

I’m in the middle of moving this week two hours away to retire in northern Wisconsin

A wonderful state.  My entire family (except me and 1 brother) lives there. I love Wisconsin when I visit. 
Moving is very all-consuming and I can see how that would impact your abilty to pore over PPs.  
I will have another look as well, North. 
 

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

4/20/21

Northof64 said...

Ok please feel free to double check an correct if needed. Others are Mandaloun, Get her number, Hozier, Caddo River( but at a mile), the following two posted the same figure at 1 1/8 and a shorter distance this year. Soup and Sandwich and Highly Motivated. For the sake of splitting hairs I guess those last two are technically ok. Gotta go!!

Hot Rod Charlie ran better at 1-1/16th...in the BC Juvie but that was a while ago.  Then he ran 93 @1-1/16th then a 96 at 9.5F in LA Derby but was bumped at start.   

This is why Hot Rod has been hard to figure for me but he will NOT be in my exacta for sure.  Either will anyone from the ARK Derby. 

I agree that HM and S&S are okay

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