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Started Apr-18 by smartyslew; 24065 views.
In reply toRe: msg 118
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

May-25

Edit to correct the Rasmussen Factor from Rock Your World to
Rebels Romance.
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rasmussen factor:1 pt positive
 Rebels Romance
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RAN BM Sire Line: neutral
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Bourbonic, Essential Quality>> Won, France Go
Rebels Romance, Rock your World
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21st century
4 Belmont Winners have the ran BMsire line.
2 Ran lines, 2 Mr P's lines 
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o
Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

May-25

Starting with 2019 and going back 20 years:

Sir Winston RAN-RAN

Justify ND-BR

Tapwrit INT (np)-T2

Creator SD (np)-Prince (np)

Am. Pharoah ND-RAN

Tonalist Rib (np)-ND

Palace Malice ND-T2

Union Rags RAN-ND

Ruler on Ice RAN-Buck

Drosselmeyer ND-BR

Summer Bird ND-RAN

Da ‘Tara Rib (np)-T2

Rags to Riches ND-Nas 

Jazil ND-Nas 

Afleet Alex T2-Haw

Birdstone ND-Prince (np)

Empire Maker ND-Int (np)

Sarava ND-GM (np)

Point Given RAN-INT (np)

Commendable Int (np)-DrF (np)

Broodmare sireline:  10 ND, 5 non-Phalaris (2 Ribot, 2 Int, 1 SD...no Prince), 4 RAN, 1 T2...no BR or Nas.

Broodmare dam’s sireline:  6 non-Phalaris (2 Prince, 2 Int, 1 GM, 1 DrF...no Ribot), 3 RAN, 3 T2, 2 ND, 2 Nas, 2 BR, 1 Buck, 1 Haw...ND much better in bmsireline.

Non-Phalaris good in either:  9 had an np in one or the other although only 4 in the last 15 years.  np in the bmsireline worked with another np 2 twice, T2 twice, and ND once.  np on the bottom worked with ND 3X, another np twice, and RAN once.

Most often in the bmsireline is ND; worked with another Phalaris 7X and an np 3X in a row 16-18 years back but none since.

 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

May-25

0-0 stamina contender without a stam chef in 5 gen.1negative pt
Bourbonic, Hot Rod Charlie-2nd  ,1st,.3rd ,4th okok
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only one stamina chef- 1negative pt
Brooklyn Strong, Overtook, Rombauer,--3rd
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no stam chef-sire side- 1 negative
Bourbonic,Hot Rod Charlie,-2nd
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stam chef 4 gen------------------- 1 positive pt   
Brooklyn Strong, Essential Quality, Won, Known Agenda, 4th
Rebels Romance, Rock Your World
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dominate  classic pts -1 positive pt 
None, I mean nobody

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Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

May-25

dominate  classic pts -1 positive pt 
None, I mean nobody
 
RR comes really close though doesn’t he?
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

May-25

No The C DP has to be higher than the other 4 numbers combined.

That 3 needs to be 22 or more in this instance. Then one could say

Half of 22 =11 that goes on each side of the C,  BI= 21,SP =20.

DP = 2-8-3-8-1 (22) DI = 1.10   CD = 0.09

in the real case not Dominate,  but for giggles  1/2 of  3 = 1.5 for each side BI 11.5, SP 10.5

The tricky part for low numbers not Dominant is the Placement of the Chefs and who they hooked up with.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

May-25

Message 125 I miss read the Dp for RR , The C s/be 20 or more not 22 in my example.

In reply toRe: msg 122
Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

May-25

Who are they like on the distaff side from the last 20 years?

Overtook:  BR-ND (0)

Get Her Number:  ND-RAN (2...Am. Pharoah, Summer Bird)

Bourbonic:  RAN-ND (1...Union Rags)

Keepmeinmind:  RAN-Prince (np) (0)

Rombauer:  ND-RAN (2...Am. Pharoah, Summer Bird)

Rebel’s Romance:  RAN-Int (np) (1...Point Given)

Promise Keeper:  RAN-RAN (1...Sir Winston)

Rock Your World:  RAN-ND (1...Union Rags)

Known Agenda:  ND-Nas (2...Rags to Riches, Jazil—same dam)

Essential Quality:  RAN-ND (1...Union Rags)

France Go De Ina:  RAN-ND (1...Union Rags)

Hot Rod Charlie:  Nas-RAN (0)

Brooklyn Strong:  ND-RAN (2...Am. Pharoah, Summer Bird)

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

May-25

Rebel’s pedigree isn’t very much like any of the last twenty winners that’s for sure.  He has 9 S/P points when the average is 1.  His di is 1.10 and cd 0.09.  Drosselmeyer holds the records there over the last 20 years with 1.75 and 0.55.

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

May-25

Rombauer?  2-1-7-0-0

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

May-25

I don't use Points less than 14 , In this case a wash., 10 only points. + -

One could use it because of the  part Argentina Pedigree. Thats up to you.

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