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Medina Spirit - Positive - Betamethasone   Triple Crown

Started 5/9/21 by SameSteve G; 21218 views.
SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


The same people who say, "these horses are treated & cared for better than you're treated."

Sure.  That statement only flies as a trite bromide to paper over the far too frequent instances when that is decidedly not the case.

Without getting too far out in leftfield, my position is that there is an imperative to consider the immaterial (and far more potent) consequences of one's actions.  




2012 is the year I point to for when BB started getting superhorse that look to do more than their ped appears.  Look at all the super horse he had since then.  Look pre 2012 and I don't think he had the list of killers in his barn prior to that, going back to maybe War Emblem for his last KD winner? (just off the top of my head).  

I haven't been paying much attention since Belmont, stopped by here as I started looking at Foster day which seems ho hum with Maxfield there.  So I have been out of touch with all the med talk.

I've seen a lot about the measurements of the drug and comments about the amount.  But I have not seen much about how much to be effective which seems like it should be the real issue.  Perhaps that amount is all it would take, don't know what that amount would be, but to me that is what should be relevant.   Some I am sure would not take much to be effective or even harmful.  Lots of stuff in blood, so amounts not an issue as I see it, needs to be related to effectiveness.

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


Hey, Pistol.  Would be a lot more fun for bettors if the game was on the square without entertaining a suspicion you may be betting into a rigged race.  I await the entry of the USA Anti-Doping Agency as the administrator of the meds/drugs/dope and uniform rules for all jurisdictions.  July 2022.  Perhaps my interest in placing wagers will be reignited by that.  I know for a fact that both Out Of Competition Testing will be greatly increased & USADA investigators will be on the ground at the tracks.

As far as Beta Bob goes, he sued NYRA to reverse his suspension which was expected.  What was unexpected was The Jockey Club going to the judge to file an Amicus Brief (as a friend of NYRA) because the JC claims they have information that would bear on the outcome that no one else can provide.  This means to me that the JC has information from the investigation into Servis & Navarro that implicates Baffert.  Just my opinion after reviewing the facts.

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From: Wintertrian


SameSteve G said...

This means to me that the JC has information from the investigation into Servis & Navarro that implicates Baffert. 

Maybe that will register and he will quit making up stories and hiring batallions of attorneys simply because he cannot follow the rules that all the other trainers also have to follow. 

His own fantasy of self importance will be what sinks his boat.   

Racing doesn't need him.


SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


Wintertrian said:

Racing doesn't need him.

Not only doesn't need but better off without.  Unfortunately, I think he's like the barnacle on the bottom of the boat.  Only comes off if scraped off.  :)


From: ChiefsCrown


First, Beta Bob now Barnacle Bob!!!......Can't make this stuff up!

Wonder what's the time frame until the call Mandaloun the derby winner?

SameSteve G

From: SameSteve G


ChiefsCrown said:

Wonder what's the time frame until the call Mandaloun the derby winner?

Twelfth of never.  

If Beta Bob is a symptom, then the regulatory bodies  (such as the KHRC) are the disease.  It's their piss poor oversight of the sport over a period of decades that has allowed the symptoms to flourish.  Upgrade the regulatory end via implementation of HISA, upgrade the med/drug/dope end by putting US Anti-Doping Agency in charge & the myriad symptoms (Beta Bob being a particularly painful rash!) will recede.


From: Oldbettowin


The whole due process argument is stupid.  Baffert knows what the rules are.  

It’s sad that we knew this was coming but racing created a monster they now can’t control.


From: TexSquared


When big league sports decided to crack down on PED's and other illegal drugs (not necessarily performance-enhancing), players weren't able to pay off lawyers to nullify their fines and suspensions and let them keep playing while using steroids.  If a player gets in trouble with the law for domestic violence, sexual assault, etc... many leagues will automatically suspend that player until the matter is settled by the courts.  Again, that player doesn't get to pay off a lawyer and take the league to court to force them to let him play. 

Why should racing be any different?  

Otherwise, next time a baseball umpire finds a pitcher using an illegal substance to increase the spin rate of his pitches, or a  hitter using a corked bat... when the umpire signals ejection from the game the player's lawyer comes onto the field from his front row seat to challenge.... who needs managers, just have the players' lawyers on standby!