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2021 2 year olds Handicapping
Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 140698 views.
From: Oldbettowin
May-18
Preakness winners that ran in the derby and where they finished last 25 years (11 of 19 won the derby):
Silver Charm 1st
Real Quiet 1st
Charismatic 1st
Point Given 5th
War Emblem 1st
Funny Cide 1st
Smarty Jones 1st
Afleet Alex 3rd
Curlin 3rd
Big Brown 1st
Lookin At Lucky 6th
Shackleford 4th
I’ll Have Another 1st
Oxbow 6th
California Chrome 1st
American Pharoah 1st
Exaggerator 2nd
Justify 1st
War of Will 8th
From: smartyslew
May-19
Thanks I know Empire Maker and Tiz the Law skipped the Preakness and both finished 2nd in the derby.
And Secret Oath of course. From: smartyslew
May-19
4 Northern Dancer, 5 Mr P entrants
1st & 4th Mr P, 2nd &3rd Nor Dancer
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Nor Dancer Sire line
Simplification, Creative Minister, Happy Jack,
Simplification, Creative Minister, Happy Jack,
Epicenter
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Mr P, Nor Dan, Seattle Slew at least one in the Sire or Bms position
2 of these 3 is better .
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Di 4.00 and up:
Secret Oath 8.60 24 dosage pts neutral
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Secret Oath 8.60 24 dosage pts neutral
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Di 2.00-2.99:
Fenwick 2.50., Happy Jack 2.38 positive
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cd points over 1.00:
none
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Bris improve numbers Positive
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Early Voting 86 91 111 last 3 races
Skippylongstocking 77 85 94 107
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(close) Epicenter 90 93 98 101 101
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Equibase Improving Numbers or not backwards positive
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Skippylongstocking 93-96-101
Creative Minister 84-88-108
Early Voting 79-81-102
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Skippylongstocking 93-96-101
Creative Minister 84-88-108
Early Voting 79-81-102
Armagnac 60-83-92
Epicenter 79-95-97-97-97-97-105
Epicenter 79-95-97-97-97-97-105
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Beyer improving Numbers positive
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Creative Minister 76-82-93, Early Voting 76-87-96
Armagnac 55-83-93
Skippylongstocking 79-88-91
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Variant equaled or better positive
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Creative Minister last race 94 +2 92 beyer
Secret Oath missed last 2 races 94 beyer last
Secret Oath missed last 2 races 94 beyer last
Early Voting last 0 variant +8 96 beyer
Skippylongstocking 104 zero variant 91 beyer
89 +3 88 beyer
Epicenter Last Derby 89 -3 100 beyer,
104+5 , beyer 102
101 +3 98 beyer
Equaled or beat Variant next 3 races beyer 88-87-80
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Cmp s/s index 1.00 or less positive
all but Creative Minister
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a high cmp stamina number of 1.06 or higher must have
20 dosage points. negative
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the ones below 1.00: 20 dosage pts or more positive.
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Fenwick 28 pts, Happy Jack 22 Pts
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Graded Stks winners positve
-Simplification 4 gr races 1 g2 win
-Simplification 4 gr races 1 g2 win
Secret Oath 4 gr races, g1 win ,g3 win
Early Voting 2 gr races g1 2nd,g3 win
Epicenter 4 gr races 2 g2 winsg1 2nd, g3 2nd
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Epicenter 4 gr races 2 g2 winsg1 2nd, g3 2nd
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No graded stakes races negative
Creative Minister
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reine 5 gen & tff 10 positiveCreative Minister 12, Happy Jack 17,
Fenwick 13, Secret Oath 10
Fenwick 13, Secret Oath 10
Early
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- Edited May 23, 2022 11:59 am by smartyslew
From: smartyslew
May-21
Preakness Stakes
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pedigree and historical guidelines on the track scoring
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1 Early Voting 14
2 Epicenter 13
3 Skippylongstocking 12
4 Secret Oath 11
5 Armagnac , Creative Minister 10
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Performance on the track scoring very close
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1st Epicenter
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1st Epicenter
2nd Early Voting, Creative Minister
3rd Simplification, Secret Oath, Skippy
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