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2022 2-year-olds/2023 3-year-olds   Handicapping

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 216352 views.

From: smartyslew


You must not bet turf Horses very often, the 6 I looked at on message 1352 is the message you must have meant to
 address to me  and not message 1350.  I got emails asking me what you meant ,didn't make sense on message 1350.

I listed 6 horses of the 14 entered a day before the race on 1352 not knowing turf conditions with a mix of  gd, fm, yl. etc.

Race day it was a fm track and some Euros gd race types can run ok on fm.

Message 1358 I listed The Runups,
Message 1360  I listed my Pick and bet

10th  Keeneland - Friday, November 4th, 2022  8f turf

 $ 20 win #1 Victoria Park 6-1, Thats a Pick , can't bet the 4 at  9-5, hope the pick likes firm turf

He and 2nd place #4 Silver Knott had the shortest runups 2 of the tools I used to bet the Winner.





Mandela raced Beholder's baby girl today. She showed early speed, then stopped. Her mom did not win first out either, and Mandela said that she was a bit "fat", indicating that she wasn't completely fit.

Also, did you know that Flightline has a juvenile full brother named Olivier? He seems to have similar leg problems!

  • Edited November 12, 2022 6:26 pm  by  RAESFAN

From: smartyslew


I didn't know about Olivier and looked him up, Thanks. Stopped works in September until then his works were

positive. I don't know the Similar Leg problems Story. 


From: smartyslew


2-year-olds: male or female Beyer Leaderboard thru 11/15/22
More than a Mile ( Not this good last year)
Cave Rock          SA: 1 1/16 Mile   104  Beyer
Forte                  Kee 1 1/16            100
Cave Rock         Kee  1 1/16             99
Nat. Treasure    Sa    1 1/16              97
Nat Treasure     Kee 1 1/16              95
Blazing Sevens  Kee 1 1/16              93
Forte                  Kee 1 1/16              92
Hejazi                SA   1 1/16              91
Loggins             Kee  1 1/16              91

From: smartyslew


Edit 11/25 bottom Paragraph.
2 year olds on our list racing 11/19/22
Churchill Downs race 6: 6.5 f MSW Dirt 
#3 Reagan Edit: Backed Up Something went wrong
Laurel Park Race 8 : 6f dirt.. all Opt CL $62,500
Del Mar Race 8: 7f Dirt Bob Hope Stks : 3 Bafferts in the race. 2 scratches, 5 runners
#2 Havnameltdown  won
Woodbine Race 6 : 8.5f AW MSW  Cancelled weather
#1 Whitewalker  May Foal Belmont Prospect, Takes awhile to get going 
stepping stone for later IMO
#2 King Elvis  Attfield trainer Win possible 
Edit Whitewalker raced Today At woodbine 11/25 race 6 finished 2nd , still on my Belmont List still takes awhile
to get going 3 wide whole race 2nd 1 length back , 2nd best to Curlins Ghost on the All weather.
King Elvis wasn't in this race 8.5f is like 6f for Whitewalker pedigree IMO.
  • Edited November 25, 2022 6:38 pm  by  smartyslew
Msg 1770.1372 deleted

From: princeofdoc


I noticed the same thing...cagey Cox!


From: princeofdoc


Thanks, I always appreciate being pointed toward a horse that often gets overlooked.....

Now I have one for you and Rob...


utr trainer, Brittany Russell, primarily trains at Laurel Park and Pimlico, occasionally ventures out to SAR, or CD, by Frosted.....has won first two impressively.  Let's see where placed next, do watch replays


From: Wintertrian


Will check out Post Time.    Not dinging trainer for track she runs at mostly,  though she has only won one graded stakes and that was a G3 at BEL in 2021.  I look at her more like a claiming trainer type.   I like the broodmare sire and dam, but both seemed to be a late developers. 

Would like to see this MD bred in next race, which is hopefully a stakes race.   Had a lot of trouble in last and seems very bold for being green.  That's a good sign.

Bad sign is the jockey, his 3rd mount in 6 years ad first win since........2016.  That probably won't cut it in a better stakes. He was good back in 2005-2013.  

There are only 2 stakes races left for 2 y.o.  at Laurel for 2022, and both are 7F sprints.