Verifying looked good, ran fast......bet him after at WH at 80-1

Thank You, I'll check him out!

On Lasix, The formula is L on non points races and non L on points races.

It made a Runner Out of Cyberknife last year. Pletcher and Cox formula

looks like the flavor of the 2023 year. 

I'll look for Non L  users contenders and it will be tough this year

I cringe everytime I see a young horse on Lasix whether I like them or not,

a partial pedigree view of next Saturdays 1/21/23 Lecomte-
14th raceFair Grounds,Saturday,January 21st 23,STAKES.1 1/16 Mile Dirt.Lecomte S.(Gr3). 
^ Stamina Chefs within 5 generations--Field of 8 that is well bred as a group for 10f on the first Saturday in May IMOAll 8 are Lasix free so far and I like that a lot and you can make a case for all 8.number 6 Itzos is the only entrant not on my list at one time or another and he is new to me and belongs imo

There's nothing wrong, per se, with keeping one's options open with a young horse and trying a few different things to learn what you have.  

The difference with Beta Bob is that he wants a certain kind of performer and in the process misdirects a lot of talented animals to achieve his ends, not what the horse might normally excel at.

Baffert will lose interest.  At that point, it would be best for the horse to go to another trainer who is not as monomaniacal as Beta.

Thanks Steve, I wanted thoughts or feedback on trainer intent, you are in line

with my thoughts, He is savvy and I can see any trainer trying to get a deep closer

to be closer mid pack or even closer at the break, you did nail it with your certain kind of performer and misdirection, and thats the rub, Do you think he is trying to change with this one.

also Fort Warren is one of his top horses and he did a real slow work and that is a

red flag to me like not close to 100% for the horse,  A say what moment to me.. 2 different Patterns for Beta.

I also noticed the slow work for Fort Warren....huge red flag coming from BB.  But jury is still out on Mr. Fisk, I think he may be a good one, and Beta is simply seeing if he can train him for the Derby preps

The MSW on Jan 2 was run early in ~23 - ~47 - ~ 1:11 with Mr. Fisk along the inside and a few lengths off that as we all saw.   Mr Fisk ground down the other Baffert in a unremarkable 1:37 and change.

He's not brilliant which is how Beta likes them.  We'll see if he can improve in his next.

Well  yes, also he is bred for turf and his Bmside has the 16 to 20 f great

German stamina line with a Stout Chef Line married to Galileo ,Sire Line is the Strong

TC Fappiano line thru Arrogate, I think it is special work in progress ,Give him to

Graham Motion a lot of Animal Kingdom type  German is in here. A turf trainer knows how

to prepare them for dirt.