Thanks Steve, I wanted thoughts or feedback on trainer intent, you are in line

with my thoughts, He is savvy and I can see any trainer trying to get a deep closer

to be closer mid pack or even closer at the break, you did nail it with your certain kind of performer and misdirection, and thats the rub, Do you think he is trying to change with this one.

also Fort Warren is one of his top horses and he did a real slow work and that is a

red flag to me like not close to 100% for the horse,  A say what moment to me.. 2 different Patterns for Beta.

I also noticed the slow work for Fort Warren....huge red flag coming from BB.  But jury is still out on Mr. Fisk, I think he may be a good one, and Beta is simply seeing if he can train him for the Derby preps

The MSW on Jan 2 was run early in ~23 - ~47 - ~ 1:11 with Mr. Fisk along the inside and a few lengths off that as we all saw.   Mr Fisk ground down the other Baffert in a unremarkable 1:37 and change.

He's not brilliant which is how Beta likes them.  We'll see if he can improve in his next.

Well  yes, also he is bred for turf and his Bmside has the 16 to 20 f great

German stamina line with a Stout Chef Line married to Galileo ,Sire Line is the Strong

TC Fappiano line thru Arrogate, I think it is special work in progress ,Give him to

Graham Motion a lot of Animal Kingdom type  German is in here. A turf trainer knows how

to prepare them for dirt.

His last race of 2022 he finished 2nd to Reincarnate ,same distance

Similiar splits 3 lengths back moved up 4 wide partly to 2nd a 1/2 length

behind  1.37.41 . At Del Mar 210 ft Runup Equibase 91 no lasix 1.37,41 Winner

This race at Santa Anita 1st as a 3 yr old Lasix added, runup 175 ft

Equibase 80 with Lasix  1.37.91. The Lasix didn't help his shorter runup imo.

Anxious to see how Confidence Game runs with these. Winter pointed out his breeding similar to Zenyatta’s I believe months ago. I see he ran a second and a half faster than Instant Coffee (who many like) on the same day at Churchill last November. Big jump in speed rating too. Always thought Desmoreuax was underrated as a trainer. I know new year and new track. Just saying. I was disappointed last September when in Vegas I could not find anywhere to take a futures bet on him. If he runs well or wins props to Winter who liked him last summer already. Even if he does not fair well here he does like Churchill if he gets enough points.   North

Yes , I have him ranked very high ,Pedigree wise, like you Winter pointed him to my direction

and I haven't capped this race for on the field stats yet. Its getting tougher early on the trail

the North America Breeder is improving Imo and a surge of 1st year sires is

also a blessing. If Only the Trainers and connections would improve,

a lasix free field, with a few rushed into this spot a little behind on fitness

haven't stretched out yet will be hard to support in this field.

I usually have these capped before the odds come out and posted.
there will be value for sure in this field and no clue yet, Who.

3-year-olds: male or female
through 01/15/2023

The 4 with wins at CD need more than one look imo and don't need to win

this race, Finish good or coming with or without a bad trip in a 8.5 F prep

not the best distance for most in here.