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Msg 1595 of 2147 to DogsUpWiredDogsUpWired 
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Feb-10

Thanks, Randy Moss has been addressing this for some Time especially at Gulfstream 
70 ft or less is pretty neutral if you don't pick it up from a chart. Big difference Like at
Santa Anita for race distance and or turf.
 

Feb 4th Card : 6f  70 Ft,  8F Dirt 180 ft, 8 f Turf 120ft 0 rail, 8.5 f Robert Lewis 90 ft

6f turf 45 ft, 7f dirt 28 ft., and so on ... 28 ft 7f  to 180 ft for dirt miles Gasp
90 ft for beta workouts.

  • Edited February 10, 2023 7:35 am  by  smartyslew
 
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Msg 1596 of 2147 to smartyslewsmartyslew 
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DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

Feb-10

Never knew some at as much as 180.  

For large fields, which we don't see much anymore, the runup does provide safety time for shake out when the gates open and the bumping happens..ah..broke in a tangle.

Hope all enjoy Super Bowl.

 
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Msg 1597 of 2147
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Feb-10

From Message 1573 Withers I'll correct the Post Positions. #3 Jungfrau is added to the field
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On Our 3 yr old List racing in This points race 1 Arctic Arrogance, 4 Hit Show,  20-8-6-4-2 pts Hit Show WON Earned 20 Pts, Arctic Arrogance 2nd 8 Pts, General Banker 3rd 6 Pts
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Hit Show Raced with Lasix in last, see if it gives a boost in numbers this race, like Cox

did with Cyberknife last year. The formula looks like many trainers this year are going with 2 races using Lasix in non point races and giving them a season boost like I do with Tomatoes, when planting a spoonful of 29% nitrogen fertilizer around each plant and when it gets established adding Epsom salt sprinkled around each plant So the fruit grows more then the green vegetation. It could be a unknown chemical effect, I don't know though, and suggest we track it this year. All others entered are Lasix free.
I like the 2 on our list to run 1 -2, #4 1st, #1 2nd.
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 I really Like #4 Hit Shows Pedigree and don't like the L use. 89 bris with L in last
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Best Speed At Distance 9f: Arctic Arrogance 99-slop G2 Remsen , Prove Right 64.. Par Speed 97
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 7th race Aqueduct - Saturday, February 4th, 2023:  * same race
STAKES. 1 1/8 Mile Dirt. Purse $250,000. Withers S. (Grade 3). FOR THREE YEAR OLDS. (03:44 PM) (6)
PP Horse A/S M/E Wgt Jockey Trainer                     runup last
6 Ninetyprcentmaddie  EP8 3 C 120 Adorno Abner Reid, Jr. Robert E.    24ft  no route race
5 General Banker  EP5 3 C 118 Cancel Eric Ferraro James W.      52ft*
1x Arctic Arrogance E 8 3 C 118 Lezcano Jose Rice Linda                52ft*
7 Andiamo A Firenze E6 3 C 118 Carmouche Kendrick Breen Kelly J.           52 ft*
4x Hit Show  P4 3 C 118 Franco Manuel Cox Brad  L in last    60ft
2 Prove Right  EP6 3 C
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Msg 1598 of 2147
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Feb-10

Entrants entered in The Sam Davis  Stks on our 3 year old  list. Lets see how they do.
1 Worthington.2 Prairie Hawk,3 Classic Legacy, 7 Dubyuhnell, 9 Champions Dream, 11 Litigate  Won The Race
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Par: 97 :Best Speed At Distance:  6 Classic Car Wash 88 4 Laver 79.
Speed Last Race: 7 Dubyuhnell 100 2 Prairie Hawk 92 11 Litigate 92,:
Prime Power:7 Dubyuhnell 135.5 1 Worthington 134.3 11 Litigate 133.4
Class Rating : Champions Dream 116.9 7 Dubyuhnell 116.5 12 Zydeceaux 116.
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10th race :Tampa Bay Downs - Saturday, February 11th, 2023 field of 12, EDIT Runup 46 ft.

STAKES. 1 1/16 Mile Dirt. Purse $250,000. Sam F. Davis S. (Grade 3). FOR THREE YEAR OLDS. )

  ^ stam Chefs in 5 generations
PP Horse                                                    Runup Last     A/S M/E Wgt Jockey Trainer
1 Worthington EP7 1st dirt race      85 ft rail 7 ft T 87-S 3rd 3 C 122 Morales Pablo ^1 Maker Michael J.
2 Prairie Hawk EP 7 L+11 92               24 ft   92 OC 1 40 1st 3 C 120 Camacho Samy ^1 Joseph, Jr. Saffie A.
3 Classic LegacyEP4                             60ft  91 Mdn 7f Sys 1st 3 C 120 Alvarado Junior ^2 Mott William I.
4 Laver EP6                                           5 ft  87 S   8f 5th 3 C 120 Morelos Jose E.^1 Arnold, II George R.
5 Groveland EP6  2nd PLACE                                 24ft  90 OC 1 40 2nd 3 C 120 Centeno Daniel  ^2 Harty Eoin G.
6 Classic Car Wash EP6 L88(AW)-2  3RD   40ft  88 non1 170 2nd -aw 3 G 120 Jaramillo Emisael ^4 Casse Mark E.
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Msg 1599 of 2147
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Feb-10

Horses on our list Racing this week end
2/11/23
Golden Gate Race 8: El Camino Real Derby 9f All Weather Derby points 10-4-2-1
#1 Gilmore  Valdivia   Baffert runup 185 ft 8f MSW  1st 85 Finished 2nd
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Santa Anita Race 10 MSW 6f Turf 3 year olds 10 entrants, 6 firsters
#10 Nuclear First Time starter  1Mil 550,000 3rd place not a sprinter was coming
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Gulfstream Race 9 : 8.5 f Turf OC $75,000 3 Yr olds
Webslinger 1st  Place              Edit I missed posting it..
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Msg 1600 of 2147
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Feb-10

2/11/23 For 3 yr olds I have looked at a few and Some 3's will be added to our list
after the race is over, mainly AW types with nice Marraiges and some from Deep Pockets
Turfway Park - Saturday, February 11th, 2023 Race 7

ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING. 1 Mile Synthetic. Purse $74,000.  Not Considered In Allowances). (08:55 PM) (12)
PP Horse A/S M/E Wgt Jockey Trainer
1 Eye Witness 3 C L 122 Corrales Gerardo Ward Wesley A.
2 Miranda Rights 3 C L 122 Hernandez Rafael Manuel Casse Mark E.
3 Huntertown 3 C L 118 Peterson Ferrin Hernandez Rey
4 Clear The Air 3 C L 118 Gilligan Jack Walden William
5 Mendel's Secret 3 C L 122 Talamo Joseph Maker Michael J.
6 First Strike 3 C L 122 Ramos Joseph D. Lobo Paulo H.
7 Ballesteros 3 C b 122 Cannon Declan Delgado Gustavo
8 Wadsworth 3 G L 122 Landeros Chris Cox Brad H.
9 Storm Daddy 3 G L 118 Bermudez Samuel E. Elliott Michelle L.
10 Saturn Boy 3 C L 122 De La Cruz Fernando Davis Joseph D.
11 Phantom Ride 3 C
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Msg 1601 of 2147 to smartyslewsmartyslew 
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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Feb-11

Gave my thoughts on the sam davis here.  Waiting on possible rain, and fact that this is a very competitive race, makes it non-playable.

Any time a favorite is at as low odds makes it a race that longshot players would be attacted to esp.if you think he is over valued.   I think he is pretty competitive but not sure about at 9/5.


http://forums.delphiforums.com/horse_racing/messages?msg=2315.1

 

 
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Msg 1602 of 2147 to WintertrianWintertrian 
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Feb-11

I haven't even looked at the Odds, if it Rains Duby has good off numbers

and Prairie Hawk also horse for the course.

Oh Duby is the Fav 9-5 . Value should come from the others IMO

but Duby will be tough. 

 
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Msg 1603 of 2147
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Feb-11

Hit Show and Arctic Arrogance are entered in the Withers today

and the only 2 from the Withers in Pool 4 Future bets. Edit Hit Show 1st Arctic 2nd.

  • Edited February 11, 2023 8:48 pm  by  smartyslew
 
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Msg 1604 of 2147
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Feb-11

Cox 7 with L, 3 without L Instant Coffee, Jaces Road, Victory Formation  WHY
Pletcher 3 with L ,Forte without, Asmussen 3 with, 3 without Disarm, Gulfport-sprinter, Red Route One  WHY
20 Used L. 19 non Lasix use in pool 4, 15 no derby nick, 10 no stam chef in 5gen
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 03:42:27 PM PST
Subject: derby pool 4 futures, Bris  speed numbers last race to 1st with L when using Lasix, no turf races
L=Lasix, N= past Derby Nick,   ^ = Number of Stamina chefs within 5 generations
 
L Angel Of Empire  86-S,76 L,68, 69 L      ^0 3 C 126 Cox Brad H.  Fapp/Api  N
Arctic Arrogance  94-S,99Sys-G2,90,79,90Mys ^1 3 C 126 Rice Linda  Tapit/Caro
L Banishing               96L MDN,78MDN       ^0 3 C 126 Walsh Brendan P. Nor Dan/Api
Blazing Sevens    94 G1,86-Sys G1,84 Sys G1, 87MDN  ^1 3 C 126 Brown Chad C.  Curlin/ Mda D'oro N
Confidence Game 92 OC,82 OC,75 G3,80Mdn,71 MDN ^3 3 C 126 Desormeaux  Keith   Candy Ride/Bernardinji N
Curly Jack  82 G3,86 G1,86 G3,93 S,85 G3, 86MDN  ^2 3 C 126 Amoss Thomas M. Curlin/ Mr P  N
L Cyclone Mischief  80G3,99 LOC,81 G2,77 MDN,84MDN  ^0 3 C 126 Romans Dale IntoM/Bernardini
L Determinedly 93L Oc,89 S,94MDN 7f,94 MDN 7f,  ^0 3 C 126 Casse Mark E. Fapp/ Gone West  N
Disarm            91MDN 7f, 76 MDN 5.5 F           ^2 3 C 126
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