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2022 2-year-olds/2023 3-year-olds   Handicapping - HRN Horse-Races.Net

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 311137 views.
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

3/25/23

here is Something you may not know and I find interesting.
The 3 fastest  Backspeed leaders with the fasted time 96 came without lasix
the best numbers for the group Instant Coffee and Jaces Road are Lasix free.

Don't you wonder why the Lasix runners can't beat a number that beats the 96,
do you think they can without Lasix. Pros and cons.

Back Speed : Bris data:
96 Instant Coffee 96 Sun Thunder 96 Jace's Road 94 Cagliostro 94 Denington 93 Tapit's Conquest 91 Single Ruler 89 Shopper's Revenge 87 Baseline Beater 86 Curly Jack NA Disarm 95L Kingsbarns 

TexSquared

From: TexSquared

3/25/23

LV odds much different from the UK bookies?

https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/international/kentucky-derby/winner

I know eventually the odds all start to match up since the bookmakers bet amongst themselves to balance the books.  

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

3/26/23

This is interesting to me, Two Phils Catapults to the top of the Beyer Leaderboard
Awarded a 101 Beyer, for his win on the AW at Turfway Park. This is a first AW Turfway Park #1
and the splits this year are the best I have seen or remember for Turfway, Anybody know
if they changed something to their Track Surface.

3-year-olds: male or female
through 03/25/2023
HORSE TRK DATE DIST BEYER FIGURE
Two Phil's TP 25 Mar 1 1/8M 101
Hard to Figure SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 100
Newgate SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 100
Practical Move SA 04 Mar 1 1/16M 100
Hejazi SA 15 Jan 6 1/2F 99
Forte GP 04 Mar 1 1/16M 98
Worcester SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 98
Bishops Bay FG 18 Feb 6F 97
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TexSquared

From: TexSquared

3/26/23

They replaced the old, slow Polytrack with the slightly faster Tapeta in December 2021. So this was the second Jeff Ruby run over the new surface.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/238585/cdi-putting-in-new-synthetic-track-at-turfway-park

DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

3/26/23

Below is what is posted on Leader Board to differentiate Dirt figure vs Poly figure

(A) denotes race on all-weather surface

Evident the notation was left off the edition. On the horse (A), not  at the bottom of the list.

As Tex points out the new surface is a prime factor for faster race times, surface provides faster, and numbahs rise.


 

TexSquared

From: TexSquared

3/26/23

Having walked on both Poly (at Woodbine and Turfway) and Tapeta (at Woodbine) I can tell you Tapeta is much faster.  It's firmer overall and feels a lot closer to natural dirt in terms of the "grip" you get on it, compared to Polytrack which really did feel like you were walking on a thick layer of lint from your clothes dryer mixed with some pillow fill.  That's a slight exaggeration but there's a clear difference. Poly is a lot "spongier".

Tapeta also has a tendency to clog up tread on your boots/shoes, like dirt can. Poly never did that.

DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

3/26/23

What is your take? 

In general 

It seems to me that runners move up from Tap surface to dirt for performance.

Yet to grass not so much.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

3/26/23

Here's the Full Beyer Leaderboard 3/25/23 I showed a few  at the top earlier to high light
Two Phils in a AW race  at the top 101 Beyer. You can tell today is Sunday the Interns
usually miss the AW notification races. At Least that's there story for years.

3-year-olds: male or female
through 03/25/2023
HORSE TRK DATE DIST BEYER FIGURE
Two Phil's TP 25 Mar 1 1/8M 101
Hard to Figure SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 100
Newgate SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 100
Practical Move SA 04 Mar 1 1/16M 100
Hejazi SA 15 Jan 6 1/2F 99
Forte GP 04 Mar 1 1/16M 98
Worcester SA 04 Feb 1 1/16M 98
Bishops Bay FG 18 Feb 6F
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

3/27/23

Message 1848 Did This help anybody hit the tri, let me know if it did it paid $192.45 for 50 cents

for this tricky Race and I heard from somebody adding Disarm to the mix  they hit the

trifecta, and the dollar Exacta $ 47.30

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

3/27/23

That was good DD North, Good Luck with Skinner ,makes more sense.

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