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6/2/23
6/2/23
Compare How Angel Of Empire And Arcangelo 9 gen Linebreeding Compares to the
Last 10 Belmont Winners Linebreeding in message 2131. Look for High Percentage AGR
and The more Influence Closer than 5x5 Generations to the target horse and the who
Like the ones listed on the 10 belmont winners in message 2131. Look for Many Progeny
like 3, 4, 5 Names in the same horse besides MR P and Nor Dan like Fappiano Or Nijinsky for example.
I score this higher than I do the Nicks ; Sire/ Bms.
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ANGEL OF EMPIRE C, 2020 DP = 4-4-2-0-0 (10) DI = 9.00 CD = 1.20 26, Classic Empire 4m/ To Honor And Serve 4r
6/2/23
Two More to compare to The Belmont Winners Linebreeding on message 2131 and to each other
6/2/23
2 more possible for the Belmont tp compare to Message 2131.
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6/2/23
Check this Pair Out and compare to the Belmont winners message 2131 this thread.
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RAISE CAIN C, 2020 DP = 5-4-8-3-0 (20) DI = 1.86 CD = 0.55,14c, Violence 1g,/Lemon drop Kid 3l
6/2/23
Here is 2 Tapits to check out and compare to other Tapitis on message 2131 that won the Belmont
Stakes and Remember 3 of the Tapit winners were P/N types.
TAPIT SHOES C, 2020 DP = 4-11-12-1-0 (28) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.64,8h,Tapit 3o/Flower Alley 17b
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6/3/23
smartyslew said...
Remember the 5 generations are fed by the the Engine room 6 & 7thGenerations This is the Foundation for 12f . not sire side, not Dam side
A good reminder. I remember you saying this from years gone by. I have to learn more about how to use your wisdoms.
I will still have to think over Archangelo. Sort of like you had foundation issues with Mage in the KY Derby, this one also has very little foundation AND is carrying 8 extra pounds than he has ever carried before. For 9.5 or 10F that wouldn't worry me as much, but for 12F I have to worry a bit.
BTW, I always ignore Tiz the Law's win.......all that speed, and the race was shortened during pandemic year so it wasn't 12F.
6/3/23
Those are all good concerns, I forgot that Arcangelos 9f win , was a one turn 9f event
and thats not the same as a two turn race and saying that ,the Peter Pan has been a good feeder
for the Belmont Stakes and he is a May Foal playing catchup that. is very relaxed runner imo
and I like his pedigree and splits in that one turn race and got up in time to catch a very good one turn
type for the win.
The field is strong imo and I'm showing the linebreeding for this group to compare to some of the past winners
because it shows how the breeders are changing and we need more races on a safe track
to card longer distances to show how they deserve to be competitive on the World stage
and it doesn't have to be on dirt. The linebreeding Shows How important the Godolphin . Byerley Turk,
and Darley Arabian lines still are its not P/P Sire and Bms lines that we are brainwashed with,
3 of the Tapit Belmont wins were P/N nicks, and the pedigrees are filled with Darley Arabian (DA)
Godolphian (G) , Byerley Turk (BT) that are getting pushed back further every year,
I suggest we think P/ Da, Da/P, Da/G, G/Da, B/DA, B/G, G/B and get away from P/P. P/n. P/P N/N
Sire and BMS only we would be better served than looking at only 2 lines of the the 32 lines that run thru the
5th generation pedigree,