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2021 2 year olds   Handicapping

Started 7/2/21 by smartyslew; 140185 views.
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-26

What I  didn't do is research how many foals was born in each Month over time. January is a Good month for maybe

having the least foals born year over year, also I heard years ago  December foals were held back and reported

to be born in January. No way to know if that is true>

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Apr-26

Oh I'm sure it happened lol.

Oldbettowin

From: Oldbettowin

Apr-26

I think sometimes you just have to draw a line thru a race.  CC was coming off a new top and was on a short turnaround.  He wasn’t really going that fast when he started backing up and probably would have won going away if he hadn’t stopped (see the final time).  He’s faced pressure in races before.  Maybe he didn’t like the track?  Just didn’t feel like racing?  The jock didn’t urge him on at all.  They already had plenty of points so there was no reason to press the issue in case something was wrong and it certainly looked like something was wrong.  Maybe the owners are now simply trying to boost his breeding resume but I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt for now.  

PISTOL9

From: PISTOL9

Apr-26

Irad drew some lines across some of those races as well.  Looks like two with jocks still TBD,     Javier has no mount but has never done well in the KD a 3rd at best I believe.  Trying to think what is out there,  I don't know who may be injured, don't see Santana with a mount, Paco,  G Saez, Victor, Calvin, just throwing out names who have ridden before...  I would like to see Bechizza  get a shot.  Tawny Port and Early Voting currently without mounts

Meanwhile, Zandon is moving down my list a couple spots (3 to 5/6) while he is moving up on everyone elses

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-26

Oldbettowin said...

I think sometimes you just have to draw a line thru a race.  CC was coming off a new top and was on a short turnaround.  He wasn’t really going that fast when he started backing up and probably would have won going away if he hadn’t stopped (see the final time).  He’s faced pressure in races before.  Maybe he didn’t like the track?  Just didn’t feel like racing?  The jock didn’t urge him on at all.  They already had plenty of points so there was no reason to press the issue in case something was wrong and it certainly looked like something was wrong.  Maybe the owners are now simply trying to boost his breeding resume but I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

I agree with this, I should have said I was being mildly sarcastic, too.   I will never judge any horse on ONE race.  They aren't machines.   I actually added him back in 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-27

Lasix Free Contenders. Never used Lasix in any race :
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IMO: They Should change the Rules to No Lasix in any race.
Stop these Trainers from racing in Lasix every other race when not
a sanctioned race. We Need Transparency for cappers. One might think
they are masking something and we just don't know.
Somebody Should ask Pletcher and Cox why do they do that
with Some of their crop and not others.
I don't like it when a Horse I really like races in a un sanction  race on lasix
I wonder Why? Is He a bleeder or is something else is going on.
E1 E2/LATE SPEED PARS: 94 103/ 93 (103
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Epicenter 21a IP 164  Louis Derby  9 3/16   Rosario  L free
23.67 47.65 11.99  36.16 54.38   102 by   87 90/106 (101
23.67 23.98 24.34 24.17 (3/16 18.22) Last Q 24.31
Zandon 4d  S       114  BG 9f      Prat       Lfree
24.87 49.30  13.75  38.06 50.35   98 by
24.87 24.43  24.45  24.31 12.29 lastQ  24.45  
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White Abarrio 9e S  112 flor D. 9f, fast in middle  Gaffiolone   L free
24.18 47.66 10.99* 36.55 50.64   96 by    96 110/77 (96
24.18 23.48 23.33 25.56 14.09 Last Q 26.84
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Mo Donegal 3g  S   112  Wood  9f  I Ortiz     L free
25.07 48.76 12.50 36.03 47.96    96 by
25.07 23.69 23.74 23.53 11.93  Last Q 23.67
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Tiz The Bomb 3L BP 110  Jeff Ruby AW 9f  Hernandez  L free
23.96 47.78 11.58 35.89 48.60   94 by   86 93/105 (101
23.96 23.82 23.80 24.31 12.71 Last Q 24.87
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Simplification 16g Is  74   Flor Derby  9f J Ortiz    L free
23.77 47.25 10.69 36.56 51.09   92 by  100 113/70 (93
23.77 23.48 23.44 25.87 14.53 Last Q 27.47
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Smile Happy 6d S   70  BG  9f   Lanerie            L free
24.34 48.69 13.02 37.86 50.85  94 by
24.34 24.35 24.33 24.84 12.99  Last Q 25.41 
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Barber Road 4i  C       58   Ark. Derby 9f   R. Gutierrez  L free
23.42 47.27 11.83 38.04 50.97    88 by
23.42 23.85 24.56 26.21 12.93 last Q 26.04
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Early Voting  9b    B        50  Wood  9f  J Ortiz   L free
23.86 47.75 11.59 35.63 47.98   96 by
23.86 24.89 23.84  24.04 12.35 last Q 24.37
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Morello  6b  IP             50      Wood  9f
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-28

Has the Derby Nick : Sireline/BmSire line won a kentucky Derby
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Cyberknife  Fappiano/ Mr P
Epicenter Storm Cat/ Fappiano
In Due Time  Storm Cat/ Mr P
Messier  Fappiano/ Mr P
Simplification  Storm Cat/ Fappiano
Summer Is Tomorrow  Danzig/ Nor. Dancer
Taiba  Fappiano/ Api
Zozos  MrP/ Storm Cat
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DogsUpWired

From: DogsUpWired

Apr-28

In how many Derbies?

On paper one is favorite and one could quit running  in USA with foreign jock 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-28

Tail Female Family Conduit Won A Derby
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Name Tf family, (Conduit Classification) Conduit Name  Derby Winner, only 4 this year.
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Tail Female Family Conduit Won A Derby (147 Derbys  thousands of tail female branches )
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Crown Pride  5g (BS)  Remembrance   Twenty Grand 1931,
Cyberknife     8h (SP) Ophirdale,     Whirlaway 1941,
Summer Is Tomorrow 20b ( BC)  Highflyer,      War Emblem 2002,
Zandon  4d (S) Tribonyx,   (2)           Real Quiet 1998. Majestic Prince 1969.
pianot

From: pianot

Apr-28

Which at this point looks anyone can jump up on this thing.

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