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Troll problem   Chat

Started Sep-22 by MountainMan7640; 1321 views.
Akaysha

From: Akaysha

Oct-14

Hi Render.   We started gagging him the moment he came in and then we all went to the new profiles and put them on IGNORE.   I have been dealing with this guy for many years (tho I didn't open chat between 2013 and Oct., 2018), he hasn't changed.  Years ago I made a list of over 300 names he had used in my chat, including the name "Akaywilldie" and collected email death threats to me and 2 of my managers.  I was told nothing can be done, call the police.  It's just sad that this pathetic low life can ruin things for everyone.  

Aloha, Akaysha 


There are several ways to legally track down those who abuse their access to the Internet. Basically, you must have 'probable cause' or evidence of a crime. Crimes may include, but are not limited to:
 
1. Providing obscene or pornographic material to minors (even if the provider is in fact a minor) without due warning that viewing of such material is forbidden by law to minors. The material may be in a photographic, audio, movie, or written format.

2. Admission of a crime in a public venue, such as a forum, newsgroup, or guest book posting is legally indistinguishable from making a verbal statement before witnesses.

3. Commission of a crime upon the Internet, such as making a threat to cause a person bodily harm, threats of death, or fulfilling the legal definition of a 'stalker' can result in criminal prosecution and penalties. Once convicted, civil suits are invariably successful for those seeking damages.

  a. Stalking via the mail or electronic media is illegal in a growing number of states. There is no requirement that the offending stalker be a resident of the state where charges are filed. If he fills that state's legal definition of a stalker, then the jurisdiction may issue a warrant and demand extradition to face charges in the victim's state of residence.

  b. Stalking may be defined in some states as a persistent effort to contact, harass, badger, or communicate with any person who clearly states that such contacts are forbidden and unwarranted.

  c. A forum member who has been ejected from a public venue, such as a forum, newsgroup, or guest book posting medium by the controlling authority, who returns under an alias and continues to contact, harass, badger, or communicate in any manner fulfills the legal definition of a stalker.

If an offender has met the above parameters, the victim must first notify the host, moderator, or owner of a forum, newsgroup, or guest book of such offenses. The victim, in concert with the web site owners, then forwards a certified copy of material evidencing admission of a crime or commission of a crime, such as providing obscene material to a minor, making a terroristic threat, or stalking to the appropriate law enforcement agency.

The law enforcement investigator, armed with such evidence, can then proceed to access the specific information upon the accused from the ISP (Internet service provider) of record. This information shall include, but not be limited to, the offender's name, address, telephone number, credit account information and any other data that may lead to his arrest and conviction. In the rare event that an ISP owner refuses to provide this information, a subpoena can be issued. Failure to comply with the subpoena may result in an injunction being filed to force the ISP to cease and desist from all operations due to prima fascia evidence of being an accessory during and after the fact.

These procedural guidelines are intended to eliminate those who abuse citizens with the mistaken assumption that the Internet provides an anonymous venue to act out upon antisocial tendencies that harm others or to disrupt the lives of others.

Accessing any web site through the use of fraudulent information, stolen passwords, or after being warned not to access the web site by the web site owners is a Federal offense.

Delphi Forums HAS the ability to work in concert with you and law enforcement to track down an offender. Rather they'll do that or not...is circumspect. It seems trolls nowadays are looked upon like a mosquito. When you complain about the mosquito you're told to go indoors until it goes away. It's a temporary cure. The mosquito WILL be back!

FWIW

Gaelspirit

From: Gaelspirit

Oct-14

Thank you for your post and the information..very helpful.

One of these days...Apple is going to invent a device where you can reach through your device and grab one of these dolts by the throat. I look forward to that!

Leah (muppetmel1)

From: Leah (muppetmel1)

Oct-20

Gunter, if you put a poster on ignore, you block them from PMing you. Is that what is being asked? If a bunch of people have the same thing happenening, they should all put the troll on ignore.

Leah (muppetmel1)

From: Leah (muppetmel1)

Oct-20

gunter said...

 

Troll PMs should be easier to deal with. Anyone receiving one can immediately set the troll on Ignore.

Let your members know not to talk about it in open room, trolls love the attention, that's why they are doing it.  Members can let staff/others know via PM or whisper.

 

Oops there ya go. Sorry for butting in. :-)

PlezHer

From: PlezHer

Nov-10

Gunter why cant Delphi do something when the troll is coming to other channels using a version of other chatters nicks. The chat room does nothing this is total BS and against Delphi own rules yet you do nothing. I seen this troll do it for the last 2 days and is a violation of Delphi.  He does it hoping someone will think it is the original person and PM them. He isn't just trolling he is hacking into peoples computers knocking them offline. Lot of people pay to chat here and yet Delphi doesn't protect them.  Let owners be able to see the IP addresses we can do more than Delphi is doing.  He has made terrorist threats against some of the chatters. saying he would kill them. This is destroying Delphi chat.

gunter
Staff

From: gunter

Nov-10

Not quite correct that we do nothing. Trolls change IPs and email addresses at will so that's not something that's helpful in blocking them. It gets more difficult when it's coming from oitside the country.  We do need to work on setting some additional options for PMs, perhaps one allowing only friends to PM. 

sorry this keeps happening ...

PlezHer

From: PlezHer

Nov-10

Ok what about the troll using a form of someones nick that is against Delphi rules correct yet he is allowed to stay in other channels

gunter
Staff

From: gunter

Nov-11

Trolls are locked out as soon as they are found no matter which name they use. Don't know what you mean by allowed to stay  ... PM me with details.

  • Edited November 11, 2019 9:22 am  by  gunter
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