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Based on Malachi 3:16-18 I believe the Lord will harken to us as we consider his word together.

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From: PAULFROMNYS

Oct-24

   The disciples came to Him and asked, “Do You realize You offended the Pharisees by what You just said?” Jesus replied, “Every plant not planted by My heavenly Father will be uprooted.” (Matthew 15:12,13 NLT)

   Organized Christianity as it is today cannot understand anything that is not organized, that is not advertised, that is not run. It must have names that carry weight, that mean influence. If you can get people with some title, you are going to have the guarantee of success for your Christian enterprise. And so the letters and the titles strung on are a necessary requisite for the success of the Lord?s work. You must write it up in the press, you must give a report of it, you must be able to make some kind of return that people can read, and say, “This is a successful thing.” If you cannot do that, the whole thing is doomed to failure. They say, “You must advertise, you must have publicity, you must organize, you must bring in all these things to support it, to carry it on.” If you did none of those; if you were never heard of in the press; if you never had a report; if you never had any names; if there was nothing at all that came out in a public way for people to take account of, what is the verdict of organized Christianity? “Nothing is being done. You are doing nothing. It is a-hole-in-a-corner sort of thing.” Is that true? What must we say about that? There was a striking absence of all that in the beginning, and a marvelous manifestation of power, of progress, of effectiveness, so that nothing could stand in the way. We must only conclude, we are driven to this extremity, that the Lord can do His own work. Evidently the risen Lord is able to carry on His own work; the Holy Ghost knows how to manage things. What a surprising discovery! Forgive my irony. I say, this is that upon which Hebrews 12:26-28 is fixed. “I will shake the earth and the heavens”; that which can be shaken will be shaken; that which cannot be shaken will remain; and what is that? It is what God has done. “Whatsoever God doeth, it shall be forever.” What God does is done in a spiritual way; it is spiritual, it is heavenly, it is eternal. That may leave you perhaps in a vague, perplexed position, not knowing where you are, but I have no doubt about the truth of the message. If you do not feel you can accept it; if you disagree; if you revolt; if you feel it cuts clean across all your training, all your acceptance; if you feel that it runs counter to all that you know, all I ask of you is honesty with God. I ask you to come and ask Him to open to you the meaning of the letter to the Hebrews, why it was written, what its significance is, why God has preserved it, what its application is now. Have honest dealings with the Lord. Please do not go away hot in spirit, antagonistic; do not lay this at the door of any man. At least give God a chance.... May the Lord give us His own interpretation, give us honesty of heart, and show us His meaning in having brought us to this consideration

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From: PAULFROMNYS

Oct-24

   The pressures of life in Christ here in this place can be alot, especially as relates to our corporate unity in Christ Jesus.  Look at Israel not too long after they entered the promise land, and began the warfare of setting it and themselves to be holy unto GOD.  Tghey had great experiences of victory as recorded in Joshua and Judges.  They also had to endure GODs displeasure and attending correction. As this went on they became dull to GOD, and who they were in GOD, and this tragic event happened as recorded in 1 Samuel 8:4-9   Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah, and said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations. But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord. And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee. Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.

   This is exactly what happened to the early church as many became dulled by the intense realities of believing GOD in Christ through many fires and trials.  Many could never bring themselves to deny Christ, but they needed refuge from the realities of of walking by faith and sought a place where they could retreat in relative passive safety, and  yet still have men over them to minister the things of GOD.  In this reality men became disproportionally elevated and and passive as in kings and kingdoms.  This IMO was one of the moves of hell to get the church off of her position being the oracles of GOD in the earth and into the realities of an ever deadening king((ecclesiastical system)) over them.  Today we see it all around us, and the call of GOD is: come out of her my people.

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

Oct-24

PAULFROMNYS said:

Today we see it all around us, and the call of GOD is: come out of her my people.

Amen! Neither Babylon, nor her "daughters" can be reformed. God's way is to bring His people out of Babylon, the religious systems, and start with a new loaf. The Old Testament narrative does not conclude with the reformation of Babylon, but with the exodus of God's people from Babylon back Jerusalem to recover God's house and God's city. (see Ezra and Nehemiah)

Jeremiah 51:8   Suddenly Babylon has fallen and become broken; / Howl over her; / Take balm for her pain, / If perhaps she may be healed.
51:9   We tried to heal Babylon, but she is not healed; / Forsake her, and let each one of us go to his own land; / For her judgment has reached to heaven / And has been lifted up to the clouds.
51:10  Jehovah has brought forth our righteousnesses; / Come and let us relate in Zion / The work of Jehovah our God.

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From: PAULFROMNYS

Oct-24

   Amen, those religious systems are a substitute for GOD in Christ, which is the very definition of anti-Christ. 

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