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The Glory of GOD #8   T. Austin Sparks

Started Jul-1 by PAULFROMNYS; 53 views.
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From: PAULFROMNYS

Jul-1

   

THE LAW OF TRAVAIL

We sometimes sing, rather glibly and without watching our words too carefully:
"How I long to climb to the utmost heights!"

I wonder if we realise as we sing that that the utmost heights are only reached through the utmost depths! You and I, dear friends, will never reach God's end except along the pathway of brokenness. That is what this chapter says. While we are whole, and substantial, and well-knit, and self-confident, we will never reach His end.

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Jul-1

   You see, God, right at the beginning of the Bible and of human history, planted something in human experience which became the LAW of all true knowledge of God from that moment. The great issue in the Garden was KNOWLEDGE of good and evil. Man made a bid for knowledge, under the instigation and inspiration of the devil, and God came along on that declension, on that breakdown, and established a law by which He said: 'You shall never have true knowledge except by this law. Everything that is going to be true and real in the future is not going to be gained so easily as you thought.' The law of travail was planted right at the heart of human life. Travail was introduced as a law for the future, and you and I know very well that true love only comes out of travail. Put it another way: we never value anything that has cost us nothing. We can let it go very cheaply if we have not paid any price for it, but if we have paid a price, if it has been costly, if it has meant something to us of real suffering, or sorrow, or great trial, that is infinitely precious to us, and we do not let it go easily.

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From: PAULFROMNYS

Jul-1

   So God came right in at that point and put this law of travail into human life and human history, and said: 'You tried to get everything cheaply, but you will not get anything that is worth having without cost in the future.' And from that point, you notice all through the Bible, until you come to the travail of His soul, the travail of the Garden, the travail of the Cross, of which Isaiah had said: "He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied", that out of travail is the preciousness. It is the law, you see, that there is no reaching the heart of God and having true knowledge without costliness.

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From: PAULFROMNYS

Jul-1

   Peter learned that by a deep way. He tried to get things cheaply. "It is good for us to be here, Lord. Let us build three tabernacles, one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah", and I suppose, although he did not say so, he meant: 'We will have some tabernacles, too. We will stay here.' Peter was like that, but he went the deep way of utter devastation by the Cross of the Lord Jesus, and years afterwards he wrote: "Unto you therefore which believe is the preciousness" (1 Peter 2:7).

The last picture of the Church is of the city, and its gates are of pearl, which is the very symbol of agony, of blood, of tears. That is how it is made. It is costly, and very precious because it costs.

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From: PAULFROMNYS

Jul-1

   I said that this is a comprehensive chapter, did I not? We will come back to it. Here are these dear sisters, and how they are baptized into the passion, the agony of the Cross, and how they are having to know a tasting of death in order that they might know the preciousness of resurrection life! There is no other way to it.

"I am glad for your sakes that I was not there." He was farsighted, and saw that, although He was running this risk of being misunderstood - for everybody, sisters and all, were misunderstanding Him and were incapable of comprehending Him - He must accept the risk. He saw beyond, to the ultimate. And what is the ultimate? "Said I not unto thee, that, if thou believedst, thou shouldest see the glory of God?"

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From: PAULFROMNYS

Jul-1

   The end of all God's ways is glory. How rich and how full all this is! We are in the presence of God, and when we are there we are in the presence of profoundest realities. Oh, that we might have the grace, when the Lord has us in hand and is dealing with us, not to wrench ourselves out of His hand, but to remain there unto the inevitable glory!

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

Jul-2

TA Sparks said:

The last picture of the Church is of the city, and its gates are of pearl, which is the very symbol of agony, of blood, of tears. That is how it is made. It is costly, and very precious because it costs.

This is a good point and the correct way to interpret the holy city New Jerusalem. This is the consummate vision and the goal toward which all God's work throughout the ages is directed. There are no "pearly gates". There are 12 gates, and each gate is respectively, one pearl. There are no streets of gold. There is one street, and the street is of pure gold.

Revelation 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

This glorious vision of the bride, the Lamb's wife has been so butchered by careless preachers as to be unrecognizable. However, Hallelujah!!!!! Today this vision is fully recovered! The Body of Christ is being built up and the bride is being prepared!

Jesus did not die to go away and build a mansion in heaven. That is a myth based on man's greed. He went away in death to prepare a way for us to be where He is...in God! This is the gate of pearl, Jesus death preparing a way for us to be where He is, in God!

John 14:2-3 In My Father’s house are many abodes; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I am coming again and will receive you to Myself, so that where I am you also may be.

John 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father...

John 14:20 In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.

May the Lord open out eyes to see this glorious vision and enter into this vision. We are not going to heaven, we are becoming the New Jerusalem. Jesus died for this.

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From: PAULFROMNYS

Jul-2

   Fred said:   This is the gate of pearl, Jesus death preparing a way for us to be where He is, in God!

    AMEN, it is the death of all we are of ourselves, and the birth and maturing of all we are of GOD.  Vivlala the differance  :)

 

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