"bob>At the rapture, which you saying is "pre" so we get our new bodies at the start of the rapture would be what you said in that line, if I read it correctly,
Yes, you read it correctly.
but you already said the soul and spirit go to haven till the 7 years is over.
Nope, I never said that. What I did say was that the soul and spirit do indeed go to heaven for those saints(born again Christians) who die before the rapture, but, they don't get their glorified bodies until the rapture occurs and then the saints who are alive at that time will also get their new glorified bodies as Jesus calls them to come up and meet Him in the air.
bob>I'm not sure why this is hard for me, No new bodies until the rapture! Souls/spirits go to heaven at death! Those alive during the rapture go to heaven at the time he returns, then when the tribulation is over they get their new bodies, so everyone gets their new bodies after the tribulation?
So, your meaning at the "end" of the tribulation the soul/spirit come back to earth and are united with a new body, right?"
Nope. At the end of the tribulation, all the saints in heaven will have already received their new glorified bodies, as I explained in the previous sentence that all the saints both those who died in Christ and those who are still alive at the time of the rapture will receive their new glorified bodies, and then Jesus with all the saints will return to earth to rule the world together, for one thousand years, under the direct command of Jesus Christ.
bob>So, I'm lost for some reason.
I'm not answering all of your questions, Bob, because I think it would start to get far to confusing,
bob>I am there now.
so, in this post, I'm just answering the key questions that I think will be able to help you understand my points, which are all bible based. I don't keep any notes and I type and proclaim most everything from memory, so I can't give book, chapter and verse/s for what I stated, and simply do not have the time to start looking them all up.
bob>That's fine, however, if you have time, can you lay out a time line of who gets what when? thanks, I'm putting you through tribulation now!