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From: 8645 (RedBV) DelphiPlus Member Icon10/15/19 1:56 PM 
To: BlueManDude  (30 of 53) 
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That there are . . .


From: BlueManDude10/15/19 2:00 PM 
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Can't wait to hear the frustration from US special forces, who were told to stand down and sit tight, while they were being smoked out by Turk artillery. Then having the ultimate insult of being escorted out by Putin's merc boys....

Someone is going to say something to somebody, it won't be pretty.


From: 8645 (RedBV) DelphiPlus Member Icon10/15/19 2:02 PM 
To: BlueManDude  (32 of 53) 
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There have been some reports that some have spoken out . . . but haven't caught anything specific just yet . . .


From: 8645 (RedBV) DelphiPlus Member Icon10/15/19 2:04 PM 
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Washington (CNN)A wide range of American military personnel and defense officials are expressing a deep sense of frustration and anger at the Trump administration's refusal to support Syrian Kurds facing a Turkish military assault, over half a dozen US military and defense officials have told CNN.

Several US military and defense officials, including personnel deployed to Syria, expressed dismay at how the Trump administration has handled the situation.
One US official said it is well known that some senior US military officials are livid at how the Kurds have been treated given their role in helping the US fight ISIS.


From: BlueManDude10/15/19 2:07 PM 
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Brazen... tour of the former US base, your tour guide, the Wagner group


Jennifer Griffin Retweeted Dion Nissenbaum

Russian mercenaries give video tour of abandoned US base in Northern Syria, laughing at the hasty US retreat, showing unfinished meals on dining tables and heavy military equipment left behind. A Russian propaganda coup.

  • Edited October 15, 2019 2:18 pm  by  BlueManDude

From: BlueManDude10/15/19 3:05 PM 
To: 8645 (RedBV) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (35 of 53) 
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Trump Followed His Gut on Syria. Calamity Came Fast.

All the warnings were there. But President Trump’s reliance on his instincts, and his relationships, led him to ignore the consequences of a move that has emboldened Russia, Iran and the Islamic State.


And over the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, about 250 miles from the Syrian border, according to two American officials.

Those weapons, one senior official said, were now essentially Erdogan’s hostages. To fly them out of Incirlik would be to mark the de facto end of the Turkish-American alliance. To keep them there, though, is to perpetuate a nuclear vulnerability that should have been eliminated years ago.

“I think this is a first — a country with U.S. nuclear weapons stationed in it literally firing artillery at US forces,” Jeffrey Lewis of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies wrote last week.

For his part, Mr. Erdogan claims nuclear ambitions of his own: Only a month ago, speaking to supporters, he said he “cannot accept” rules that keep Turkey from possessing nuclear weapons of its own.


From: BlueManDude10/15/19 3:26 PM 
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There 50 of these in Turkey....

B61 nuclear bomb

The B61 nuclear bomb is the primary thermonuclear gravity bomb in the United States Enduring Stockpile following the end of the Cold War. It is a low to intermediate-yield strategic and tactical nuclear weapon featuring a two-stage radiation implosion design.[3]

The B61 is of the variable yield ("dial-a-yield" in informal military jargon) design with a yield of 0.3 to 340 kilotons in its various mods. It has a streamlined casing capable of withstanding supersonic flight speeds. The weapon is 11 ft 8 in (3.56 m) long, with a diameter of about 13 inches (33 cm). Basic weight is about 700 pounds (320 kg), although the weights of individual weapons may vary depending on version and fuze/retardation configuration.

The B61 has been deployed by a variety of U.S. military aircraft. Aircraft cleared for its use have included the FB-111A, B-1 Lancer, B-2 Spirit, B-52 Stratofortress; F-101 Voodoo, F-100 D & F Super Sabre, F-104 Starfighter, F/A-18 Hornet, F-111 Aardvark and F-4 Phantom II fighter bombers; A-4 Skyhawk, A-6 Intruder and A-7 Corsair II attack aircraft; S-3 Viking antisubmarine aircraft, F-15E Strike Eagle and F-16 Falcon; British, German and Italian Panavia Tornado IDS aircraft. USAFE and all NATO dual role aircraft can carry B61s.

B61 bombs are deployed with NATO allies in Europe as part of the NATO Nuclear Weapons Sharing Program.[9] About 150 bombs are stored at six US and European bases: Kleine Brogel in Belgium, Büchel in Germany, Aviano and Ghedi-Torre in Italy, Volkel in the Netherlands and Incirlik in Turkey. [10] NATO has agreed to vastly improve the capabilities of this force with the increased accuracy of the Mod 12 upgrade and the delivery of the stealthy F-35.[11][12] This will, for the first time, add a modest standoff capability to the B61.[13]

The B61 can fit inside the F-22 Raptor's weapons bays and will also be carried by the
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From: 8645 (RedBV) DelphiPlus Member Icon10/15/19 6:09 PM 
To: BlueManDude  (37 of 53) 
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Angry . . .


From: 8645 (RedBV) DelphiPlus Member Icon10/15/19 6:10 PM 
To: BlueManDude  (38 of 53) 
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Must be why it took years ta get him into depends . . .


From: BlueManDude10/15/19 6:19 PM 
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It's a complete disaster, Erdogan, who has bitched for years cause he can't get nukes is off to Moscow for chatties with Putin. Meanwhile the pence & trump's other lackey Pompeo are off to Turkey, maybe to burn off some taxpayer paid for Jet A.

Meanwhile.... in NYC...

BREAKING: SDNY charges Turkish state-run bank Halkbank in sanctions violations in connection with the record-breaking money-laundering scheme to Iran executed by gold trader Reza Zarrab. Zarrab was the client whose release Giuliani pushed for between Trump and Erdogan.


Erdogan says Turkey will never declare ceasefire in northern Syria

ANKARA (Reuters) - President Tayyip Erdogan told U.S. President Donald Trump that Turkey will never declare a ceasefire in northeastern Syria, and added that he was not worried about U.S. sanctions over Ankara’s offensive, broadcaster NTV reported on Tuesday.

Speaking to reporters on a flight back from Baku, Erdogan said talks with Washington and Moscow on Syria’s Kobani and Manbij towns continued, and added it was “not negative” for the Syrian army to enter Manbij as long as militants in the area were cleared, NTV said.

He also said he told Trump that Turkey would “not negotiate with a terrorist organization” in response to Trump’s mediation offer.

Separately, the Turkish presidency said on Tuesday that Erdogan told Russian President Vladimir Putin in a phone call that Turkey’s incursion into northeastern Syria would contribute to counter-terrorism efforts, Syria’s territorial integrity, and a political solution process.


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