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Triple Crown Series   Triple Crown

Started Apr-18 by smartyslew; 14672 views.
smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-18

Derby Contenders Raw Time 6f split in last prep
With The Bris E2  speed number Awarded to them . not the final speed number
I don't know how their Variant works.....
* 9 3/16 Louisiana derby, AW all weather, lex 8.5f,
  ---------------------- 6f raw time--bris number awarded
Rock Your World          70.64            110   sa
Hot Rod Charlie           71.26              97*  la--3rd
Medina Spirit              71.40             106   sa--1st
Midnight Bourbon        71.45              95* la--
Mandaloun                  71.46              92* la--2nd
Helium                       71.58              94   tb
Super Stock              71.65               104  ark
King Fury                   71.80               97  lex 8.5f
Sainthood                  72.05               93  ru  AW
Highly Motivated         72.08               94  bg
Essential Quality         72.18               93  bg---4th
O besos                     72.25               86*  la----5th
Soup And Sandwich    72.29               91   fla
Like The King             72.35               90  ru AW
Known Agenda           72.79               86  fla
Hidden Stash             72.98               85      bg
Dynamic One             75.18               88     wood
Bourbonic                  76.60               75     wood
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Bris   Raw time  with the  bris number LP number last prep
 last 3 f time, La Derby last 3 3/16 f, Ruby last 2.5 f,
------------------Raw Time --------Bris late pace number
Essential Quality     36.32                    106--4th
Highly Motivated    36.43                     105
Known Agenda        36.66                    112
Hidden Stash         37.47                       94
Soup And Sandwich  37.71                   101
Like The King        37.87 aw                   95
Bourbonic             37.89                       109
Sainthood               38.37-aw                 90
Rock Your World-     38.53                      91
Medina Spirit-          38.62                      86--1st
Super Stock----        39.27                     86
Dynamic One          39.37                      96
Get Her Number      39.87                      84
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La Derby  9 3/16 f
O besos               43.21                        96  coming--5th
Hot R Charlie       43.80                        90-----3rd
Midnight Bourbon 44.01                        95
Mandaloun           N/A       Walked    71--2nd
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-18

2021 Derby Prep splits , Derby Leader Board
1/4-----1/2------3/4----8f----final
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Bourbonic-real slow track-1st by a hd,  bsf 89-Wood

26.55, 25.85. 24.20, 24.76, 13.13- 1/8th, last 3f 37.89
26.55, 52.40,76.60, 101.36 ,114.49,last Q 25.51
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Caddo River-2nd by 2 1/2  Arkansas Derby
22.62, 23.89, 24,74, 26.49, 1/8, 13.68,last 3f 40.17
22.62, 46.51,71.25, 97.74,111.42, last Q 26.93
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Dream Shake
22.72, 23.79, 24.63, 25.83, 13.50, Last 3f 39.33
22.72, 46.51,71.14, 96.97, 110.47,Last Q  25.42
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Dynamic One-2nd by hd, WOOD     bsf 89
25.58, 25.41,24.19, 25.58,13.75, last 3f 39.37
25.58, 50.99, 75.18, 100.76, 114.51,last Q 26.54
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Essential Quality-1st-by nk bsf 97  Blue Grass
24.03, 24.28, 23.97. 23.89, 12.43, last 3f 36.32
24.03, 48.31, 72.18, 96.07, 108.50, last Q 24.33
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Get Her Number
23.42,24.39, 24.24, 26.29,13.78, Last 3f 39.87
23.42,47.81,72.05,98.34,111.92 Last Q 26.93
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Helium 8.5f, 1st by 3/4  bsf 84,  Tb Derby g2
24.58, 23.08, 23.92, 25.51, 6.46   last Q 25.48, 31.97- 2.5 f
24.58, 46.66, 71.58, 97.09 103.55 last 1/8 12.83
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Highly Motivated- 2nd by a nk,  bsf 97  Blue Grass
23.83, 24.38, 23.87, 23.89, 12.54 Last 3f 36.43
23.83, 48.21, 72.08, 95.97, 108.51, last Q 24.49
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Hidden Stash
24.73, 24.10, 24,15,24.27, 13.20, last 3f 37.47
24.73, 48.83, 72.98, 97.25, 110.45, last Q 25.34
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Hot Rod Charlie 1 3/16-1st by 2  bsf 99  Louisiana Derby

23.11, 23.94, 24.21, 25.13, 18.68, (est 1/8 12.46) last 3 3/16 43.80
23.11, 47.05, 71.26, 96.39, 115.06, last Q, 24.97
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King Fury 8.5, Lexington
24.49, 23.28,24.03,25.32, 6.38, last 1/8  12.71 last 2.5 f 31.70
24.49,47.77,71.80, 97.12 , 103.50, Last Q 25.37
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Known Agenda 1st-by 2 3/4, bsf 94  Florida Derby
24.33, 24.00, 24.46,23.82, 12.85, last 3f 36.66
24.33, 48.33,72.79, 96.61, 109.45, last Q24.51
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Like The King (AW) 1st by 1  bsf 89  Jeff Ruby Steaks
24.14, 24.17, 24.04, 25.18, 12.69. last 3f 37.87
24.14, 48.31, 72.35, 97.53, 110.22, last Q 25.28 (aw)
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Mandaloun- 6th by 11 3/4(1 3/16) bsf 82  Louisiana Derby
4 wide on all turns , nothing left coming home
Suggest checking previous race. 6f time 71.46 ( lp 88 prev race)
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Medina Spirit- 2nd by 4 1/4,  bsf  99  Santa Anita Derby
22.73, 23.58, 25.09, 25.37, 13.25 last 3f  38.62
22.73, 46.31,71.40,96.77,110.02 last Q 25.94  
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Midnight Bourbon-2nd by 2(1 3/16) bsf 96   Louisiana derby
23.10, 24.04, 24.31, 25.03, 18.98, 12.66 1/8.  last 3 3/16 44.01
23.10, 47.14,71.45, 96.48, 115.46, last Q 25.24
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Obesos 9 3/16
23.80,24.64, 23.71,24.83, 18.38, 12.26 1/8, last 3 3/16  43.21
23.80, 48.44, 72.25,97.08, 115.46, last Q 24.59
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Rock Your World-1st by 4 1/4, bsf 100  Santa Anita Derby
22.42, 23.69, 24.53, 25.63, 12.90, last 3f 38.53
22.42, 46.11, 70.64, 96.27,  109.17  last Q 25.63
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Sainthood -2nd by 1 length  (AW)   bsf  84  Jeff Ruby
23.33,24.19,24.53,25.40,12.49, last 3f  38.37
23.33,47.52, 72.05, 97.93,110.42, Last Q 25.19
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Soup And Sandwich  2nd by 2 3/4          bsf 90 Florida Derby
23.53,24.20, 24.56, 24.62, 13.09, last 3f 37.71
23.53, 47.73,72.29, 96.91, 110.00, last Q 25.40
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Super Stock-1st by 2 1/2   bsf 92 Arkansas Derby
22.92, 24.00,24.73,26.10, 13.17 last 3f 39.27
22.92, 46.92, 71.65,97.75, 110.92 last Q26.22
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-18

fastest final 1/8
O besos              12.26   9 3/16 f
Essential Q          12.43
H Rod Charlie      12.46    9 3/16 f
Highly Motivated  12.54
Midnight Bourbon 12.66    9 3/16
Helium                12.83
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Sainthood            12.49  (AW)
Like The King       12.69  (AW)
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fastest final Q time  25.40 or better
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Essential Quality  24.33
Highly  Motivated  24.49
Known Agenda      24.51 
O besos                24.59
Hot Rod Charley    24.97
Midnight Bourbon  25.24
Hidden Stash         25.34
King Fury               25,37
Soup And Sand     25.40
Rock Your World   25.63* doable 1st 6f 110.64
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Sainthood (AW)     25.19
Like The King(AW) 25.28
Northof64

From: Northof64

Apr-19

Thanks for sharing all your hard work Smarty. Hope it pays off for you in a big way!! North 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-19

Thanks North, Your welcome , maybe it will help somebody, good Luck !   

Rock Your World-9f(P)Fapp./Fapp. DP = 3-4-8-1-0 (16) DI = 2.20   CD = 0.56 PPPP
Fapp/Nasrullah/Fapp/Storm Cat 4 gen sires P,N, 6 P
CMP 2-3-4-7-8   Speed = 5   Stamina = 15   Index = 0.41   Triads = 9-14-19
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smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-19

Derby Nicks Winners - Conduit winners
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Essential Quality    ----Essential Quality-4
Known Agenda ------- Rock Your World
Rock Your World-------Mandaloun
Medina Spirit----------Sainthood                               
Mandaloun----------- Hidden Stash-4
Helium--------------- Get Her Number 
Dynamic One-------  King Fury
Sainthood 
Hidden Stash
Dream Shake
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conduit 1x La troienne(BPT) 4 derby winners,4 preakness winners,2 Belmont winners
2 running in The Derby this year: Essential Quality and Hidden Stash.
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Reine de Course. Given her own Family: 1x.
Dam of 2 HOF, 6 Reine de Course
Damline is active through all 9 daughters, most prominently Big Hurry and Baby League
More than 800 SW and more than 30 Champions descend from her and counting
Died Jan 30, 1954, age 28 buried at Greentree Farm
Essential Quality 1x(BP), Tapit/Mr P DP = 5-12-14-1-0 (32) DI = 3.00   CD = 0.66,PPPP
Tapit/  Fappiano/  MrP /storm cat  4th gen Sires 8 P
CMP 12-3-2-2-12   Speed = 15   Stamina = 14   Index = 1.04   Triads = 17-7-16
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Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-19

Nice stats, smartyslew!

Question:   How does one estimate closely late pace figures for a horse like RYW when he was geared down. 
Is there a method by which to do that?

Because obviously I can't go with what my Brisnet PPs say.

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-19

I use my eyeballs and look for a  replay to refresh my memory if I haven't noted it ,in this case I did note it i

even tho I'll never forget this ride. I noted also in his gallop out he was 20 lengths  ahead of anybody else, so many

little things for ones DD. I save some dd for myself, any data I put out, It's nice to get feed back, 

smartyslew

From: smartyslew

Apr-19

you said "Because obviously I can't go with what my Brisnet PPs say. "

I can't either, I do dd from the Race chart for the race. not from bris and note the tidbits from the chart

and then I watch the replay and look for highlighted notes from the chart and most of the time I don't

put that in public. My data is for others to look at and choose to either run with it or do more of their DD,

from it. I will do highlights from the charts on some data like bumped at start, etc after the draw with

a full field.

Wintertrian

From: Wintertrian

Apr-19

That's fine.  Understand. 

I wasn't addressing the question *directly* to you but thanks for sharing.........

I am/was wondering how other people do it.  How do you come up with a figure when there is none that fits into the "publishing" mode on PPs. 


It's like my comment about mud/slop.  People only look at races.  Horses who are stabled at tracks in barns where it rains cats n' dogs work and gallop in slop very frequently.  PPs don;t tell you that.  It's uber important, as is their breeding for such a task, even if they don't barn where there is a lot of rain. 

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