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Started 6/6/20 by Jeri (azpaints); 23911 views.
Jeri (azpaints) said:

Half the R elected officials and A ton of media From all over the US and the world. So, the virus might as well be let loose in La Guardia, LAX and O'Hare simultaneously. Maybe add SeaTac and a couple other airports.

Yeah. so maybe no one else should travel for a few days before and after the end of the convention, so the next super-spreader outbreak won't get passed along to everyone else who was just in the airport that day some dignitary, security personnel, aides, etc. are all exhaling clouds of virus acquired at or around the convention.

That also made me think of something else that actually has historical precedent although I can't remember much detail beyond it was evidently in the 19th century.

While it's pretty cut and dried how succession operates if a President in office dies - such as when FDR kicked the bucket and Truman stepped up, or when JFK had his -um- misadventure in Dallas and LBJ stepped up. Same with resignation, or even a pair of resignations. Spiro Agnew resigned, Nixon appointed Gerald Ford as a replacement for Agnew to finish the term, then Nixon resigned and Ford stepped up.

But - what about if, say, a major party nominee kicks the bucket between convention and election? Let's say, maybe both the top and bottom of the ticket contract, say, a disease, and neither makes it to Election Day. Or, say, the VP nominee recovers, and the Presidential nominee doesn't. It's too late to re-print ballots.

Then there's the problem of - same scenario but between the election and the inauguration, for whoever won.

Because neither of the presumptive names on the ballot in November are spring chickens. It wouldn't even have to be a pandemic. I've known far too many folks in their 60s and 70s who at 7 PM one day thought they had a bad case of acid reflux, and by 7:15 PM people were frantically doing CPR waiting for the ambulance, and by 8 PM the E.R. doctor  officially pronounced them.

Then there's an even more murky scenario. Let's say that both major party candidates have been showing symptoms of serious cognitive decline, sometimes speaking or tweeting word salad, sometimes forgetting the kind of things that suggest not really knowing where they are or what they are talking about.

So by Election day, they're both, say, quite alive, but it's clear that the lights are on but nobody's home. How would that kind of situation be handled?

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From: Showtalk

6/8/20

Um, that is already kind of the case with one possible nominee.   They would just plug in the VP candidate.

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

6/8/20

I agree the protests are an incubator for the virus!   The protests started May 25th, right?  We could be seeing some of that spread right now, but I do wonder if we would be told that the spread was due to a protest.

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From: Showtalk

6/8/20

We will not be told if the outbreak is due to protests.

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

6/8/20

I think if the "president elect" dies or is unable to be sworn into office, then VP becomes President elect.  If they both are unable I have no clue.  If the VP elect is unable, the president elect nominates a new VP.  I suspect somewhere is a chart that shows it all... I also suspect the Speaker,of the House would be involved somehow.  I just hope it never happens.  I honestly don't know how much more chaos the country could stand right now.

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6/8/20

I agree, I think both sides should want as much stability as we can get. Using all this for political gain is getting tiresome and it is hurting people.  People are reporting that adults, especially young adults, are stressed to the breaking point.  They were too young to be very affected by 911 and this is the worst thing that has ever happened in their lives.  I think I told you I was out a few weeks ago and saw many teens and young adults playing sports, hanging out and not distancing anymore.  I don’t think it’s rebellion so much as they can’t stand it anymore.

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

6/8/20

I agree.  A lot of the non distancing we are seeing is exhaustion with masks, social distancing and isolation.  Some people are content to be alone while others can't stand it.  I'm seeing the stress of isolation in my daughter.  It's scary.

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

6/8/20

Ventilator and respirator use in Arizona has quadrupled in the past week or so!  Hang on, Arizona, we're going for a ride!

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From: Showtalk

6/8/20

I’m also seeing it in people and it is scary. 

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