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Will Republicans abandon Trump over Covid_19 to protect their political futures?   The Serious You: Politics

Started Jul-6 by MerlinsDad; 3227 views.
MerlinsDad

Poll Question From MerlinsDad

Jul-6

Will Republicans abandon Trump over Covid_19 to protect their political futures?
  • Yes1  vote
    5%
  • No5  votes
    29%
  • Some will, some won't11  votes
    64%
  • Maybe0  votes
    0%
  • I don't know0  votes
    0%
  • Other0  votes
    0%
Yes 
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Some will, some won't 
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MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad 

Jul-6

As Covid_19 rages and Trump seems reluctant to take action and as his poll numbers plunge, will other Republicans abandon him in order to protect their own political futures?  Those who seem most vulnerable are the governors whose states have new cases daily spiraling out of control and the Senators and Representatives from those states.

BWArtist

From: BWArtist 

Jul-7

After observing Trump's  last two speeches last holiday weekend, he appears to appeasing to our country's deep historical divisions in our culture. Republicans that sign on to this sort of strategy face eventually being  seen as complicit or even kompromat in their motivation. If you take Trump's recent speeches and then look at this recent story, it wouldn't be hard to argue the possibility that the recent speeches along with what happened  in Gettysburg compliment each other .

Military intelligence specialist Malolm Nance could call this  political manipulation via social media. Since it's hard to identify the perpetrator being within  the country, I would rule out his explanation of marionetting. An outside adversary manipulating a citizen within the country to promote the falsehood. Instead it looks like it could be sourced from outside the country.

Anyway, with what has been going on with many  of today's version of republicans, I have to say the party is kompromat. That would explain the strange meeting at the Kremlin where the republicans appeared to be holding their hats to Putin's yes men.  on July 4th 2018. The strange events surrounding Maria Butina and the demise of the once powerful NRA,along with the Trumpion corruption coming at us in rapid daily fire. And the apparent appeal to racist thinking in regard to how the US is being forced to deal with the pandemic in all the wrong ways.  When you look at how many other countries are  solving the problems of the pandemic, it's like Trump and the republicans are hell bent for us to fail. They all appear to be kompromat.

Some have, some won't, but it sure looks like many are abandoning a sinking ship.

MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad 

Jul-7

I was blocked on Washington Post, so I read a description of the event on Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/06/gettysburg-militias-flag-burning-protest-hoax. 

It sounds to me like a hoax initiated by someone in the US, but I don't know. 

I think elected Republicans are in a pickle.  They can either accept Trump's racist divisiveness or begin to distance themselves whichever the individual thinks will save their political career.  I think quite a number also have to think about supporting him in his miserable failure with the coronavirus or distance themselves.  I think many Republicans can live with the divisiveness if they believe their constituencies will be persuaded by it.  Covid_19 is a more difficult choice, I think.  To support Trump in his denial of reality could be very costly as the pandemic death toll begins to mount, and one who backs Trump could be seen as complicit.

I saw a news item a few minutes ago that Trump is urging states to open as quickly as possible.  That will put a lot of governors in a bind between complying with Trump's wishes or trying to protect their citizens.

I don't have an opinion on how many will bail out and how many will stick to the bitter end,

MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad 

Jul-7

I think coronavirus could be a powerful divider.  To support Trump is to support his miserable failure with Covid_19 and possibly be seen as complicit, depending on where the virus is in November.

To put one's constituency first means splitting with Trump and possibly suffering his scorn.

I think the Republicans are in a sticky situation unless the curve is flattened soon.  If it keeps trending upward, even Trump's divisiveness might not be enough for him or them.

I saw an article somewhere either yesterday or Monday, that speculates that many Republicans are also abandoning Trump because they have a gut feeling he will lose in a massive landslide, maybe even as big as Mondale lost in 1984. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_presidential_election

I'd even go so far as to say that Trump is likely to even lose Texas this time around because the Covid-19 impact on so many people in a strongly negative way concerning health care accessibility and affordability and income security has put millions in the shoes of those whose plight regarding just seeing a doctor has been ignored for decades. With many white middle class people now losing access to health care right when they need it the most, I think that this may have flipped the traditional "pocketbook issue" as to "what can keep me from dying homeless?" as these are now hitting people in ways they never expected.

Even here in some of the reddest cities and counties in Texas, I'm hearing people start to openly entertain the idea of Medicaid expansion, and even outright single payor universal health care, precisely because many are seeing loved ones suffer and have to make Faustian choices between premature death or bankruptcy.

Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk 

Jul-8

I’m not posting political comments, so I have nothing to say except Wikipedia is not considered a reliable reference source. It’s not allowed as a reference in school or college papers.

MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad 

Jul-8

It makes sense that they would abandon him if identification with him damages their changes for reelection.   The last polls have shown Trump behind by about 10 points.  Governors who opened too soon will have to explain to voters why the pandemic was allowed to run wild.  Everybody was tired of staying at home, but to my mind, the surge in cases is worse because it implies that a higher death toll could ensue.  Georgia was being regarded as a toss up before the re-opening, and, although Kemp has been luckier than  some other states his allegiance to Trump could hurt him as the new case trend is up.  I feel sorry for the people of Arizona, Texas, and Florida.  I'm not surprised that there are those talking about a single payer health care system.  It certainly makes sense as people lose their jobs and the insurance which went with it.  

Now.  The schools issue has come up.  Trump states that he will pressure the governors to open the schools.  Talk about Faustian choices for the school systems:  1) risk exposing teachers, staff, and parents to potential carriers; 2) harm the child's educational development.   Of course, he appears blind to the virus, claiming that those who keep the school closed are doing it to hurt him politically.  I would suggest that this issue could force several Republican governors and mayors to chose between their own careers and Trump's.  I would also suggest that there for Trump to close the gap on Biden significantly, a miracle would have to happen.  Of course, his statements that

"We've done a good job. I think we are going to be in two, three, four weeks ... I think we're going to be in very good shape," Trump told Gray Television's Greta Van Susteren on Tuesday, referring to raging outbreaks in parts of the country as mere "fires" that would be put out after earlier insisting at the White House that "we are not closing."  https://www.wlfi.com/content/national/571670092.html?ref=092

indicate that he's counting on a miracle or magic.

When you add the issue of deporting foreign students if their university uses all on-line classes, the message is clear that he will use the power of the presidency to do whatever it takes to win re-election.  Mondale lost by 18.2 percentage points according to wikipedia.  Trump could easily eclipse that figure if he doesn't get his miracle or chooses to play the ultimate dirty trick https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/april-may-june-2019/how-trump-could-lose-the-election-and-remain-president/ (this was originally in Newsweek.)

one reason I won't set foot on a campus again. But it is a very useful place to start research. I lived through that election so I remember first hand that 49 state victory.

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https://www.270towin.com/1984_Election/

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