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966 Deaths from vaccine   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started Mar-15 by WALTER784; 14574 views.
Showtalk said:

Are the boosters for new strains or because the vaccine wears off? They said the current vaccines hit all strains of the virus

I think it's technically because the immune system slowly lets its guard down over time. But the version the drive-by media said was the new mutant strains may have a slightly different protein spike structure which won't trigger the immune system response that the vaccines have primed it for, so as it continues to mutate, modified vaccine booster shots would be needed to prime the immune system for the new strains.

However, there would probably be a partial response to the mutant strains after vaccination for the original strain. One might get sick but not as sick as if not vaccinated at all.

But then there's so much misinformation out there, and so much anecdotal and speculative info that it's more of just an educated guess.

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From: Showtalk

May-30

It seems that booster would tend to keep the disease in check, which isn’t a bad thing at all.

Showtalk said:

It seems that booster would tend to keep the disease in check, which isn’t a bad thing at all

And there is evidence that one can mix and match vaccines for a booster. Such as one fully vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine could get a booster of Moderna maybe 9 months later.

With the new mutations running around thanks to the anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-distance crowds, we will probably continue to see mutations in circulation for decades, and need periodic boosters that have been modified to deal with the new mutations as they are discovered and sequenced.

However the time between discovery of a new strain and a vaccine modification to counter it is shorter than ever before in history, so we can get way ahead of the disease spread. This was not possible until the development of mRNA type vaccines.

And it is only thanks to a couple of decades of research into mRNA as a treatment for assorted diseases, that the technology was available at just the right time. Had Covid broken out 15 to 20 years ago, it would have been far more devastating just because it would take at least 5 to 10 years to get a workable vaccine using old school methods.

In that respect we are incredibly fortunate.

And now it looks like there is growing evidence again that maybe Covid-19 escaped from a laboratory, as more stuff comes out about lax safety protocols at the Wuhan lab, and that they apparently were studying bat coronaviruses. Although of course Fakebook is still kowtowing to the Chinese government and censoring everything about it. But that's one reason I assume that platform mostly is dedicated to covering things up and stifling any real debate or scientific methodology to question dogma.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Jun-6

And don't forget, of the 34,204,374 Coronavirus cases in the U.S. 28,103,491 recovered and there were 612,203 Deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I've heard that the 28,103,491 who recovered don't necessarily need to get the vaccination because their bodies have built their own immunity and as such, don't need booster shots either.

Now whether they will get a new strain in the future, is not yet known.

FWIW

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From: Showtalk

Jun-6

One interesting biting fallout is that even Facebook has been unable to keep the truth from getting out.  

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From: Showtalk

Jun-6

People who recovered may not be able to get the same strain but they aren’t surge how much the immunity covers or will in the future.  Of those who recovered, many have ongoing health problems that could be lifelong.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Jun-6

Showtalk said...

Of those who recovered, many have ongoing health problems that could be lifelong.

I've heard about that, but the cases of that reported here in Japan are only for a very few individuals... I think only 7 or 8 cases of prolonged health problems after they recovered.

But then again, the number of cases in Japan are also far much less than in the US as well.

Japan COVID stats:

760,323 Coronavirus cases; 703,525 recovered and 13,523 deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/

FWIW

Showtalk said:

One interesting biting fallout is that even Facebook has been unable to keep the truth from getting out.

My distrust of Facebook is at an all time high.

Marc Zuckerberg's face would look good on a Chinese flag.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Jun-6

$1,661.87 in cats (ROCKETMAN_S) said...

Marc Zuckerberg's face would look good on a Chinese flag.

It would look better with a Chinese flag wrapped tightly around his face! (* BIG GRIN *)

FWIW

WALTER784 said:

And don't forget, of the 34,204,374 Coronavirus cases in the U.S. 28,103,491 recovered and there were 612,203 Deaths.

I would be more afraid of being disabled from it - the "covid long hauler" stories are to me worse than just outright dying from it. Because once I'm dead, I don't have to worry about how to keep a roof over my head or keep the lights on. But I know too many people who ended up on SSI / SSDI who struggle to survive on the enforced sub-poverty restrictions they put on them, where they are required to become totally dependent on faceless bureaucrats for bare survival, in exchange for 3rd rate doctors and standards of medical care compared to the rest of us who actually can get decent coverage.

One person in particular who used to frequent Delphi but hasn't been on in years, ends up having to make at least a dozen trips the emergency room every year just because the doctors who accept Medicaid tend to shuffle folks through and miss important diagnoses, don't do the tests and routine labs to catch trending conditions in a timely fashion. she was admitted one night with blood sugar level in the upper 300s due to plain old bureaucratic laziness and failing to even inform her about an A1C that was nearly off the charts 5 months earlier.

Based on many of the horror stories - now she's nearly bedridden due to tendons disintegrating because one doctor practicing assembly line one size fits all medicine, just gave everyone Cipro for any and all infections. And guess what one really awful side effect is for Cipro? Yep - it can trigger an auto-immune reaction that attacks the tendons, and it can happen months after the initial treatment.

So I don't want to end up with a chronic illness that results in debilitating disabilities and endless hearings and years of bureaucratic (male bovine excrement) to finally just get meds to halfway manage the condition after the illness forces me out of the workforce.

There are fates where one should definitely save a final bullet to use to escape that long expensive decline.

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