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Do you believe in holding back math students for math equity?   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started May-20 by Showtalk; 1805 views.
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From: Showtalk 

May-23

When a majority of students in a district do extremely well, it’s always because the parents hold education in high regard.  Communities that have a large majority of pro-education Asian parents very often have very successful students.  It was so prevalent in California, the top public universities were becoming predominately Asian. What they did next was shameful.  Affirmative action against Asian students.

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From: Showtalk 

May-23

BTW, that proposition was rejected by voters, but there is a lot of anti Asian sentiment based on envy,

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

May-23

Yes, it's sad, but the truth of the matter is... diversity is just a bunch of B.S.

Just because one group excels more than others doesn't need that they need to be kicked in the teeth.

What needs to happen is a study group to come in and figure out why the Asians are so over represented and the other races are so under represented.

Laws attempting to reduce the number of Asians just is NOT the answer necessary. (i.e. Prop. 16)

In Japan, many people consider diversity to be bakasity... "baka" meaning crazy or stupid.

The characters representing baka are:

The first character is "ba" or "uma" depending upon how the character is used. This means horse.

The second character is "ka" or "shika" depending upon how the character is used. This means deer.

So when you combine the two, you end up with horse deer! And well, there is no such thing. Translated into English, you could call it crazy, stupid, s### for brains, dunce or any other similar context.

Now back to the bakasity... now you understand the full meaning as it's used in Japan.

Diversity is basically crazy, stupid, s### for brains, dunce or any other similar context!

End of Japanese lesson of the day! (* GRIN *)

FWIW

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

May-23

Showtalk said...

BTW, that proposition was rejected by voters

Good to hear... it should have been.

Showtalk said...

but there is a lot of anti Asian sentiment based on envy,

That's racist and pure hatred to say the least and as such, should be labeled as racist and hate and not be allowed to continue to perpetuate such vial hatred between races!

It does absolutely nothing to build our society... everything to divide our society!

FWIW

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From: Showtalk 

May-23

That is an interesting word lesson.  Exactly. Parents who say, how are those children over there doing so well change their hime lives to help their children excel.  Not all Asian parents are alike.  One friend who is Japanese has two children going to top public universities.  Another Chinese family who are friends with the first family are sending their children to community college planning to transfer to a top public school as juniors. Two others in the friend group are white. One’s child is going to dance school. The other’s oldest child dropped out of college.  Those are just examples of four women who are good friends with each other who I know from an activity we all participate in.  The white families have more money and have pushed their children to “find themselves.” The Asian families have less and they prize education and good careers.  It is a combination of what each values and also personal circumstances.  It seems to me as an outside observer that the Asian parents are more practical.  What is a dancer going to do to support herself?  Probably go into real estate with her mom.

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From: Showtalk 

May-23

Which is so ironic because now there is a push against Asian hate but everything they did prior to that made the hatred happen.

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WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

May-23

Yes, it's interesting, but those same kanji characters have an even sadder or perhaps funnier aspect to them as well.

Print out those characters and go down to any local tatoo parlor and look for them.

Many Americans don't know how to read the kanji characters but often choose characters with a lot of strokes in them as being kool. If the tatoo shop is run by Chinese, you will probably find those characters in their list to tatoo on people's bodies.

I saw a guy once with that tatoo on his arm and asked him if he knew what it meant... he said he didn't know... I told him and he went totally ape s##t!

The Chinese know good and well what the characters stand for, but still offer it to unknown susceptible Americans wanting a kanji tatoo. 

So if you know anybody who has tatoos, show them those characters and have them inform their friends NOT to get that tatoo!

FWIW

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk 

May-24

If I know anyone planning a tattoo and they show me symbols, I will tell them.  The odds of that happening are close to zero.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

May-25

Just tell anybody you know who has tatoos... and tell them to pass it on to their tatoo friends.

FWIW

Keltos

From: Keltos 

May-30

Hello, I always struggled with math in school and suspect that I might have this dyscalculia. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be the sympathy associated with it as there is for dyslexia, and poor math students are either labelled as dumb or lazy whereas, I suspect math ability to be more inborn than something that can be learned. I could improve a little bit it through intense study, like bringing a C to a B, but intense study shouldn't be necessary if born with the gift. And the intense study was often to the detriment of other courses.

Ironically, I got a good Math SAT score because I do have the ability to visualize proportions, and where the SATs are objective multiple choice I could visualize what the approximate value should be and pick the closest from the multiple choice answers. At least for the way the questions were structured at that time.At least for the way the questions were structured at that time. And I took the SAT twice without a prep course and got similar scores, slightly higher the second time,  My problem is with doing math operations and understanding the symbology.

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