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Are you worried about a meat shortage due to hacking?   The Consumer You: Marketplace

Started Jun-1 by Showtalk; 1517 views.
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From: Showtalk 

Jun-14

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Jun-14

Showtalk said...

There are reasons the government takes bids and gives money to the private sector to do for them, such as anything requiring innovation. Spacecraft is one area where jobs are bid and the private sector picks up the work, sometimes in conjunction with the military (I just saw an article on Elon Musk).

Yes, but for the past 30 some odd years, most of those private sector bidders try to rip off the government because they know the government has oodles of money to spend. Remember the $150 toilet seats, or the $75 hammers, you name it. There are literally oodles of instances which have hit the news over the past 30 years about over inflated costs.

Remember when Trump got the F-22 and F-35 manufacturer to drop their prices drastically? He was just doing away with all that bloated extra inflated pricing. And it worked.

As for Elon Musk... yes, what he's doing is much cheaper than what NASA used to cost. But at present, he's the sole bidder so basically he can charge any price he likes as long as it's cheaper than NASA. But currently, he has no competition to bid against him.

I saw a news clip on TV today that Bezos is starting to go into the space race as well, but he's still got a long way to go before he can compete head on head with Musk. Bezos just recently offered an 11 minute space ride to the highest bidder in a recent auction, but he still has a long way to go before he can go on a 3 day or 4 day space tour... much less land on Mars!

We need somebody in government who can and will be accountable rather than taking their own silver lining off the top before that will ever truly happen. Trump did that... but I've yet to see anybody before or after him yet who can do just that.

FWIW

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Jun-14

I'm fully aware of Elon Musk's government funding, but it's a lot cheaper than NASA used to cost with the space shuttle, Apollo, Mercury and Saturn rockets. And Musk's rockets are reusable because they come back and land on earth. Bezos is also working on a similar design where rockets sent into orbit return on their own power and land back on earth. Musk took it even a step further and was able to land on a floating landing pad in the middle of the ocean which is yet another notch higher in the belt for any other competitor to even compete with.

But this is all sub-contracted work. Just like with all the military aircraft. It's not the government bureaucracy running things. It's outsource sub-contracting.

But regardless of what ever our government does (and regardless of who is POTUS), there will always be those who attempt to siphon as much off the government as possible. And that's what oversight committees are supposed to be checking for, but when the overseers themselves are on the payroll of those hefty dish-outs of our taxpayer dollars, there is no real way to tell what is going on. Therefore the oversight committees also need to be outsourced to the public sector, but then the public sector too can also be bought off for a price and thus... no end to the government conundrums of wasteful spending! 

FWIW

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From: Showtalk 

Jun-14

That was a long time ago.  The process is different now. I read some articles on it.

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Jun-14

Spending is always a huge controversy.  What to spend it on and how much. Politicians see money as endless.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Jun-15

Showtalk said...

That was a long time ago.  The process is different now. I read some articles on it.

Actually, it's still occurring... under new rules to weed out some of the old tactics used, but new tactics have come up that allow them to continue doing the same but not yet be caught.

And this problem is not only in the US, it's all over the world... including Japan. Any time the government is involved, it will become more expensive than if the government isn't involved. And that holds true for all countries!

FWIW

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Jun-15

Showtalk said...

Spending is always a huge controversy.

Absolutely!!! No doubt about that in any way!

Showtalk said...

What to spend it on and how much. Politicians see money as endless.

And that's the problem because they're not spending their money... they're spending ours! And unless we can hold them accountable, the problem will just continue to exacerbate.

They spend what they don't have... we keep voting them into office so that they can spend more of what they don't have while we end up footing the bills! Makes absolutely no sense if you ask me!

But they keep getting voted in time and again to spend more and more and more!

We need to stand up and say enough is enough is enough. But it will take a concerted effort of everybody. Except the biggest problem here is that they continue to add more and more people who depend on government handouts and they're not going to want to vote on anything to reduce what they currently get!

And thus the paradox we're currently in! Unless some kind of miracle occurs, we will spend our way into bankruptcy similar to Venezuela!

FWIW

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From: Showtalk 

Jun-15

The endless supply. They print more.  Even those who want a budget want government money spend on projects that affect them positively.  We could stop that by having very strong term limits on the House and Senate. Two terms and they are out.  No campaigning while they are in office.  Then they would only win a second term if they accomplished something.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Jun-15

Showtalk said...

The endless supply. They print more.

Ah, but the more you print, the less value it carries, just look at the Venezuelan Bolivar: https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=VEF&To=USD

1.00 Venezuelan Bolívar = US$ 0.0000000000032129136

And yes, you read that correct, US$ 1.00 = 311,208,903,643.77 Venezuelan Bolívares

FWIW

 

 

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From: Showtalk 

Jun-15

They won’t believe it until it happens. Then they will blame Trump

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