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More9/15/21
Voted 5, anyone who could let the capitol riot happen and has stuck to these crazy conspiracies was a clear threat and precautions had to be taken, I'm sure I'm relatively alone in this thinking though...although it boggles the mind that I am in the minority.
9/16/21
If this happened, it was prior to the election. Trump didn’t let the group break into the Capitol. He wasn’t even there.
Do you understand Chain of Command? The President is a civilian so the person with the most power can’t stage a military coup. That is a very simplified version. Milley broke protocols. Even Vindman who hated Trump said he was wrong.
“He usurped civilian authority, broke Chain of Command, and violated the sacrosanct principle of civilian control over the military. It’s an extremely dangerous precedent. You can’t simply walk away from that," Vindman wrote in a tweet.
9/16/21
Trump wasn’t at the capitol during the riot? Complete revisionist history, sure maybe not right there but he was a couple blocks away urging his looney toonies to March on it.
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial
I do understand the chain of command but perhaps you aren’t familiar with the fact that “I was only following orders” isn’t a defence to crimes committed under orders, which does permit a good soldier to ignore orders for the greater good, which seems to be what Woodward is putting forward in his book.
9/16/21
He wasn’t on site at the break in. He was giving a speech.
What Miley did is so out of what is acceptable, only those without respect for the military can condone it. You don’t understand how the vote here is going the direction it is and I tried to explain it. This is much bigger than dislike of Trump. He should be removed from his job at the very least. He could have started a war with China. People on both sides of the political aisle are having a big problem with what he did.
9/16/21
Showtalk said...
“He usurped civilian authority, broke Chain of Command, and violated the sacrosanct principle of civilian control over the military. It’s an extremely dangerous precedent. You can’t simply walk away from that," Vindman wrote in a tweet.
And as such should be tried and convicted of treason! No two ways about it!
FWIW
9/16/21
Not treason, sedition. Sedition is actions taken against a person or group in charge of the government. Treason is an action intended to overthrow an entire government.
9/16/21
Showtalk said...
Not treason, sedition. Sedition is actions taken against a person or group in charge of the government. Treason is an action intended to overthrow an entire government.
Going behind Trump's back and talking directly to the enemy about warning them in advance would basically be treason.
His allegiance should be with the U.S. He intentionally betrayed his allegiance against our government!
FWIW
9/17/21
His intention wasn't to take down the government, only the part run by one party.
9/17/21
Showtalk said...
His intention wasn't to take down the government, only the part run by one party.
Wrong... it wasn't even one party... it was one person... and that one person was his superior and Commander In Chief... the President Of The United States... Donald Trump!!!
Purposefully going behind a sitting POTUS to take him out by talking directly with the enemy IS TREASON!!!
>>>Milley went so far as to pledge he would alert his counterpart in the event of a U.S. attack, stressing the rapport they’d established through a backchannel. “General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”<<<
I'm going to notify you... my enemy... before we attack you that we will be attacking!!! TREASON!
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9/17/21
It’s called sedition. They were talking about it yesterday with attorneys.