They no longer say people who are vaxxed won’t get Covid but the cases are usually milder. And overall, most vaxxed people are protected.  Your side on this never admits that.  Most of the worst lies around Covid came from Fauci. He is rarely right about Covid.  How did he become Teflon?

Showtalk said...

They no longer say people who are vaxxed won’t get Covid but the cases are usually milder. And overall, most vaxxed people are protected.  Your side on this never admits that.

I cannot admit that because as I've included in several posts... Israel, U.K. and the more recent San Francisco reports of a large number of vaxed people in hospitals and dying which means that vaxed people are getting Covid. Vaxed people are being hospitalized in critical condition. And vaxed people are dying!

Therefore I wouldn't call hospitalized in critical condition "usually milder"... and of course one cannot say that dying is "usually milder"!

So how can I admit to something that's not true? My side is to stick with the facts and those are the facts.

FWIW

There are many fewer cases in the vaccination Ed percentage wise than unvaxxed.  If you recall when people were fully exposed before the vaccine, most got it.  With vaccines only a small percentage of those are getting Covid.

Showtalk said...

If you recall when people were fully exposed before the vaccine, most got it.  With vaccines only a small percentage of those are getting Covid.

Not according to the most recent figures.

With 89% vaccinated and 64% in hospitals vaccinated... I just don't see that.

And then there's this...

This doctor trained at the Mayo Clinic and runs the largest independent testing laboratory in Idaho. Listen to what his lab testing is showing: https://t.co/VtdjQMluzF / Twitter

So go figure?

If you're unvaccinated... you have to worry about getting Covid... which we did before the vaccines as well.

But since the vaccines... we have:

Oops... one major difference.

FWIW

It’s a video I don’t have time now to watch it.  You are missing everything I’m saying.  Pre vaccines they expected millions to get it and a huge number to die.  Post vaccines a small number of those who are vaxxed get it but MOST DO NOT.

Showtalk said...

It’s a video I don’t have time now to watch it.

It's 2 minutes long. You don't have two minutes?

I think we're talking on two different vectors... like a 9 year old trying to talk to a rocket scientist.

Nothing the kid says makes sense to the scientist and everything the scientist says is over the kids head!

Two minutes... watch it!

Then let's talk!

He's much more of a pro than me!

FWIW

I don’t sit online all day.  I had someone arriving in less than two minutes for some work and I just got done dealing with that.

There is no video there now, just a table.

Showtalk said...

There is no video there now, just a table.

The 2 minute video I was talking about was in post #7.

I've reposted it below...

This doctor trained at the Mayo Clinic and runs the largest independent testing laboratory in Idaho. Listen to what his lab testing is showing: https://t.co/VtdjQMluzF / Twitter

FWIW

Fauci has just recently admitted exactly what I said about 1.5 months ago:

>>>On Nov. 12, White House COVID adviser Anthony Fauci, MD, went on The New York Times' podcast The Daily to discuss the current state of the coronavirus in the U.S. According to Fauci, officials are now starting to see some waning immunity against both infection and hospitalization several months after initial vaccination. The infectious disease expert pointed toward incoming data from Israel, which he noted tends to be about a month to a month and a half ahead of us in terms of the outbreak.

"They are seeing a waning of immunity not only against infection but against hospitalization and to some extent death, which is starting to now involve all age groups. It isn't just the elderly," Fauci said. "It's waning to the point that you're seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections, and more and more of those people who are getting breakthrough infections are winding up in the hospital."<<<

Dr. Fauci Just Issued This Urgent Warning to Vaccinated People (yahoo.com)

Edited to add: And here is another source: Dr. Fauci Admits Vaccines Did Not Work as Advertised and that Vaccinated Are in Great Danger Today (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

FWIW