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WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Dec-24

Jeri (azpaints) said...

In Az we have to request mail in ballots. Generalization again. To receive one you must be registered and you can contact the local party for help but you have to provide proof of citizenship and residency.  You can get on the Permanent mail in ballot request list but again you have to reregister every five years or each time you do an address change to your DL.

What state allows you to get a mail in ballot without any identification at all.  Even if they do, getting a ballot does not legally constitute fraud.

In AZ... not all states are the same as you yourself said. Many states you don't have to do anything and they print up a mail in ballot for you. Now whether they send it to you or use it illegally... well, there are several things there.

Are the ballots they printed real and can they be validate as real? Are there any duplicate ballots which only a forensics audit can discover? The Dominion machines just flag it for adjudication and illegally handled separately? 

Remember, some states threw away the envelopes so that they cannot be traced, other states discarded over 200,000 or more ballots and cannot show them to the forensics team.

When you have more ballots received that sent... that's fraud. If they only send 100 and receive 110... that's fraud with 10 extra. But when they only send 230,000 and receive 287,000... now that's fraud of a massive scale.

When votes are tallied and they show any number greater than the actual number of registered voters... that's fraud. In most elections, you never hear about 100% votes. It's usually 72%, 75%, 78%, 82%, 86%, 91% but rarely 92% or greater. And when you have 110%, 120%, 150%, etc...  well... you cannot have more votes than registered voters... that too is fraud.

Face it... fraud does exist and mail in ballots are fraudulently used... perhaps not as much in AZ, but I'm talking about mail in ballots as a whole... not just AZ... all the other 49 states inclusive!

But you keep coming back and saying not in AZ, but AZ also has quite a few problems which still need to have rectified as well. Namely the election board member's attempting to hamper the forensics audit in every which way to sundown! Left, right, front, back, sideways from all angles. Delay handing over the equipment. Erasing some of the devices before handing them over. Not handing over the backups they took before erasing it. etc. etc. etc.

FWIW

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Dec-26

WATCH: AZ State Rep. Mark Finchem Reads Whistleblower’s Email Dated 11/10/2020 Disclosing Plot By Dems To “Embed” Thousands of Fraudulent Votes Into Pima County’s Election

By Jordan Conradson
Published December 14, 2021 at 7:00am

Members of the Arizona Legislature met yesterday near Tucson, Arizona, to hold a public hearing on election integrity in Pima County.
 
The Gateway Pundit reported on some of the major findings, including Third World voter registration numbers, a frat house with “voters” averaging 45 years of age, and 172 ballots that came from the same address.
 
The Gateway Pundit also reported that two precincts in Pima County had over 100% turnout for mail-in ballots and 40 precincts had over 97% returned.
 
This strange anomaly can be explained by an email that Rep. Mark Finchem read to the audience, alledging a plot by Democratic officials to insert 35,000 fraudulent votes into the Pima County 2020 Election.
 
In October, Finchem spoke at President Trump’s Save America Rally in Des Moines, Iowa where he hinted at this finding.
 
Yesterday, Rep. Finchem read the evidence out loud.
 
The IP address that this email was sent from has been identified as a computer in Tucson, Arizona.
 
Finchem: On November 10th of 2020, we received an email that was actually included in some of the testimony and evidence from the November 30th hearing, last year in Maricopa County. It’s important for me to read the email in its entirety because that is what sets the stage for what is happening over the last 10 months, the investigation that we have engaged in, private sourcing, a few legislators, and pulling public records and records we could get access to. This email is, as I said, dated November 10th, and it is addressed to the criminal division at the U.S. Department of Justice.
 
This is anonymous reporting and I do not want to be included in this investigation. Thank you.
 
Please be advised the Pima County Recorder, located at 240 N. Stone Avenue in Tucson, Arizona, 85701 in Pima County, Arizona, and the Democrat Party added fraud votes. In the initial count of the vote by mail (VBM) totals released at 8 pm on November 3, 2020, There are approximately 35,000 fraud votes added to each Democrat candidates’ vote totals. Candidates impacted include County, State, and Federal Election candidates. Through the utilization of the automated ballot count machines in Pima County Elections, My understanding is that 35,000 was embedded into each Democrat candidates’ total votes. Below are the meeting notes.
 
In a meeting I was invited to by the Democrat party in Pima County, Arizona on September 10, 2020, no phones or recording devices were allowed. A presentation was given including detailed plans to embed 35,000 votes in a spread configured distribution to each Democrat candidate’s vote totals. When I asked, “How in the world would 35,000 votes be kept hidden, or from being discovered?” It was stated that spread distribution will be embedded across the total registered vote range and will not exceed the registered voter count. And the 35,000 was determined allowable for Pima county based on our county registered voter count. It was also stated total voter turnout versus total registered voters determined how many votes we can embed. The embedding will also adjust based on voter turnout. Because the embedded votes are distributed sporadically, all embedded votes will not be found if audited because embeds are in groups of approximately 1,000. This is so the County Recorder can declare an oversight issue or error, as a group of 1,000 is a normal and acceptable error. Maricopa County’s embed totals will be substantially larger than Pima, due to embeds being calculated based on the total number of registered voters. When I asked, “Has this ever been tested, and how do we know it works?” the response was, yes, this has been tested and has shown significant success in Arizona judicial retention elections, since 2014. Even undetectable in post audits because no candidate will spend the kind of funds needed to audit and contact voters to verify votes and the full potential of the total registered voters, which is more than 500,000 registered voters. This year our Secretary of State has removed precinct level detail from election night releases, so candidates can’t see precinct over-votes. This is what I have from this meeting. Just thought I’d report this. Not sure if you can do anything since I was unable to have a recording device at this meeting. Thank You.
 
One additional piece of information about this, Mr. Chairman, is that we were able to identify the IP address where the email came from. It is a computer in Tucson. However, that’s as far as we could go.
 
Rep. Mark Finchem recently told the Frank Speech audience that the Arizona Legislators who have u
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WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Dec-26

Court Rules Against Democrat State Leaders – Will Allow Inspection of Fulton County, PA Dominion Voting Machines

By Jim Hoft
Published December 24, 2021 at 7:30am
 
The Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania ruled in favor of The Amistad Project and Fulton County, Pennsylvania, and will allow the inspection of the Fulton County, PA Dominion Voting Machines to proceed.
 
State Democrats including the Attorney General Josh Shapiro and Secretary of State Veronica Degraffenreid sued to prevent the voting machine inspections earlier this month. Democrats have fought against audits in Pennsylvania and elsewhere since the 2020 election which is curious if they were so certain of their victory in 2020.
 
This is HUGE NEWS for Pennsylvania and for free and fair elections.
 
Via The Amistad Project:
 
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania/December 23, 2021 – The Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania has ruled in favor of The Amistad Project and Fulton County, Pennsylvania, allowing the county to send its Dominion voting machines to the State Senate for inspection on January 10.
 
“The court recognized that it was improper to demand that the county – which owns the machines, and has the responsibility of running the election along with the legislature – can’t determine whether the machines worked properly,” said Phill Kline, director of The Amistad Project. “As the judge noted, there’s no justification for preventing the county from looking at their own machines.”
 
Pennsylvania’s attorney general and secretary of state had sued to prevent the inspection, which was originally scheduled for December 22, but the judge determined that it must be allowed to proceed, with a short delay to allow experts from both sides to come up with a formal protocol for the inspection.
 
“Executive branch officials were trying to stop the inspection altogether, but the judge did not grant their emergency motion to stop the inspection,” explained Amistad Project attorney Tom King. “They did not go to court seeking a delay; they sought to stop it, and they lost.”

HUGE WIN: Court Rules Against Democrat State Leaders - Will Allow Inspection of Fulton County, PA Dominion Voting Machines (thegatewaypundit.com)

FWIW

Elarepea

From: Elarepea

Dec-26

Something I would add, to make it easier for all people to get to the polls, would be to make voting 2 days and a National Holiday.  Maybe Fri and Sat.  And, like you, require photo ID. For those who truly cannot vote in person (military/traveling/disabled) THEY can request an Absentee Ballot.  

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Dec-26

Elarepea said...

to make it easier for all people to get to the polls, would be to make voting 2 days and a National Holiday.  Maybe Fri and Sat.

Why limit it to just two days?

For large megalopolises like New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc. in person voting should be made available for early voting 1 week in advance. Hours might be slightly limited (i.e. 10AM-6PM) on most days, but for the last 2 or 3 days, those poll booths should be open from 8AM or 8:30AM until 10PM or perhaps a bit later.

Another consideration is to add a new national holiday so that it would coincide with the elections. That way... a lot of people won't need to worry about taking a day off.

Elarepea said...

require photo ID

Absolutely. Only the Democrats say that's racist. But you need an ID to do just about anything these days. Buy a pack of cigarettes, rent a car, buy an airplane ticket, collect medicaid/medicare, get welfare, rent a car, buy insurance, buy a car, buy a home, rent a home, you name it. Either they're all racist or the Democrats are full of racist s##t attempting to claim ID'ing a person voting is voter suppression!

Elarepea said...

For those who truly cannot vote in person (military/traveling/disabled) THEY can request an Absentee Ballot.  

Yep again. Absentee ballots have been around for ages and have been proven to work fairly well for the most part. No need to introduce mail in with all it's flaws and drawbacks and loopholes when Absentee ballots are and have already been available for quite some time.

The only reason to use mail in ballots instead of absentee ballots is for fraudulent purposes... otherwise, absentee ballots will work!

FWIW

Elarepea

From: Elarepea

Dec-27

""Why limit it to just two days?""

I say 2 days because the more time allowed to vote is more time allowed to cheat. 

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Dec-27

Elarepea said...

I say 2 days because the more time allowed to vote is more time allowed to cheat. 

In a way... I agree that the less number of voting days... the less number of days to commit voter fraud and the less number of days required to confirm whether fraud occurred or not.

But lets look at the top most populated cities in the US:

New York City 8,622,357

Los Angeles 4,085,014

Chicago 2,670,406

Houston 2,378,146

Phoenix 1,743,469

Philadelphia 1,590,402

San Antonio 1,579,504

San Diego 1,469,490

Dallas 1,400,337

San Jose 1,036,242

New York clearly has 8 times the populace of San Jose. So to be fair... New York should have 8 times more polling booths than San Jose as well. Not to mention cities with less than 50,000 people.

Those who work 3 days shifts or are unable for other reasons to vote in person during the 2-day period of time should request absentee ballots.

If you're onboard ship waiting in the long line of 100 or so other ships waiting several weeks to pull into port so that you can vote... you should have requested absentee ballots. 

2-days in rural communities might work fine, but in the megalopolis cities as those mentioned above, getting that many millions of people might be a bigger problem. 

Absentee ballots should be allowed but there is absolutely no reason for mail in ballots other than fradulent activity.

FWIW

  • Edited December 27, 2021 10:16 am  by  WALTER784
Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Dec-27

The point of Election Day was that it’s supposed to reflect the will of the people in that one day.  It was never intended to drag out for days at a time.  If someone can’t vote or thinks they can’t vote, they can get an absentee ballot.

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Dec-27

California allows mail ins for everyone.  It was a first in 2020. But it also seems we are going around in circles again and this discussion is not productive anymore.  Also directed toward Walter.

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Dec-27

We need to wrap up the argument of absentee over mail in and the section on investigation. The rest can continue.

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