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Fair Elections   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started 11/11/21 by WALTER784; 165803 views.
WALTER784

From: WALTER784

11/12/21

Showtalk said...

You’re not understanding me.  They may be required to keep envelopes but once they are separated from ballots there is no way to put them back together for analysis.

The envelopes are physical evidence. Some states/counties require mail in ballots to have the envelope signed while others don't. For those that do require a signature on the envelope, even if separated, you can match the signature.

But on another note... they destroyed the 30,000 envelopes but had a recorded 100,000 ballots as being sent in when in fact only 30,000 were sent in and the other 70,000 were just printed and added to the ballot stack without being sent in. So where are the other 70,000 envelopes? If they had kept the envelopes, you would either see 100,000 envelopes or you would only see the 30,000 that were actually sent in.

They destroyed evidence which is fraudulent... regardless of whether you can or cannot match them up. That's the point I was talking about. They destroyed evidence!

FWIW

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

11/12/21

Showtalk said...

Was the loss intentional or is Dominion flawed?

Both. 

Showtalk said...

Why are they still using those systems when they know there were serious problems?

Because they needed those flaws to tilt the count in their direction. 

Showtalk said...

Beyond any fraud, some of the machines didn’t work at all. Some switched votes from R to D and could not be switched back, while the voters were in the booths.

And some wouldn't allow the user to choose a republican candidate either. They could choose a democrat, but not a republican. And there's video evidence of that too.

Showtalk said...

That is all documented but somehow they couldn’t fix it during the election.

They could have, but then the results would not turn out in their favor and thus they didn't fix the problems. 

And strangely... actually not really so strange... a good majority of these problems occurred in largely republican districts. That is NOT a coincidence! It's intentional.

FWIW

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk

11/12/21

At the time of the recount, the proper information was not available to them.

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk

11/12/21

They have a year to get it right.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

11/12/21

Showtalk said...

At the time of the recount, the proper information was not available to them.

The proper information was purposefully hidden from them!!!

FWIW

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

11/12/21

The main fact that all the articles and all the threads ignore is that the audit was illegal.  In AZ under the law, and under federal law, election materials, envelopes, actual Ballots, reviews and Notes cannot be removed from state control in the county of origin.  The audit company took the ballots and the machines out of state control and left them unguarded.  I don't know why people can't understand this.  Its the same as if a burglar entered your home and removed your watch.  The burglar is in illegal possession of your watch.  When the audit company removed the ballots to the coliseum it was theft.  Why is this concept so hard to understand? The ballots and envelopes were kept properly under state control UNTIL the audit company illegally removed them.  If they were separated its the fault of the audit company that illegally moved them.

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Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

11/13/21

Grant Woods funeral was held today.  He was a well respected Republican Attorney General in Arizona and served our state exceptionally well.  He has friends and admirers on both sides of the aisle.  This is s brief article on his thoughts on the election, the audit and bits and pieces, of his history.  I met him once and was impressed by his quiet certainty on thr law.  He will be missed,

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/arizona-audit-draft-latest-sham-election-review-investigate-those-profiting-ncna1279989

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk

11/13/21

But they were not stored originally in a usable manner. There wer mistakes made and unaccounted for.
Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

11/13/21

Originally they were stored according to state law.  Where people get some of these ideas stuff is amazing.  When the Senate President ILLEGALLY ordered the ballots and machines be Illegally turned over to CyberNinjas, she has ordered the votes and machines removed from where they were legally stored to the Senate building helter skelter.  They were filmed being removed from the senate building by movers.  

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

11/14/21

Mistakes and unaccountability are two things that should never happen in an election!

But they were rampant in numerous counties throughout our country.

FWIW

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