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Fair Elections   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started 11/11/21 by WALTER784; 164458 views.
Msg 1881 of 2180 to WALTER784WALTER784 
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It’s true. I forced it to complete the words election fraud and got some bizarre results.

 
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We have had absentee ballots, which has been changed to vote by mail. In 2020 everyone received a mailed ballot.

 
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Arrested if he didn’t certify fraudulent results?

 
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Dec-2

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So he wasn’t important enough for “found” votes?

Nope, they just couldn't dig up enough "found" votes to carry him over the finish line because he lost by so much.

FWIW

 
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Dec-2

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Newt Gingrich is doing something similar. He has a huge apparatus evaluating all the nuances of the vote count this year.

There are a lot of people looking at every single angle of both the 2020 and 2022 elections. Numerous similarities are starting to appear.

Google's search engine switch is one of them. Note: The article said that neither Bing nor Yahoo saw such a switch so it's Google purposefully changing searches in the Democrats favor and hiding searches from the Republicans.

That's why Musk's purchase of Twitter upset the Democrats so much because they had a monopoly of all the big tech in their hands until Musk stepped in. And that threw a wrench in the spanner works of the Democrats control of all big technology.

FWIW

 
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Exactly. Why aren’t they fixing it?

The easiest way to fix it is "NO MAIL IN BALLOTS"!!! PERIOD!!!

Then you only have to worry about absentee ballots.

If you actually mail them out to an invalid or undeliverable address, the post office SHOULD mark them as undeliverable and return them to sender. BUT... what if they were never mailed out? What if they purposefully put incorrect or invalid addresses on them, but never mailed them and just kept then inhouse instead? Just one more loophole in mail in ballots.

If you get rid of mail in ballots, then you don't need drop boxes (another loophole) to collect them either.

Therefore, you either vote in person (on voting day... no early voting) or absentee ballot with valid reason for requesting absentee voting.

Finally, you need to ensure voter registration databases are kept up to date too!

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Dec-2

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We have had absentee ballots, which has been changed to vote by mail. In 2020 everyone received a mailed ballot.

Mail in ballots and absentee ballots are two entirely different things. 

Absentee ballots have been around since at least the 1950's... maybe earlier.

Mail in ballots were only introduced for the 2020 elections. And you see what's happened since then.

You don't have to request one. So, they can print as many as they want to.

They're supposed to send them out to everybody, but for the dead people, the pets (alive or dead), people who have moved out, etc. They don't send those out... instead, they keep them in a box to deliver just before poll closing, or as has been seen in some circumstances, actually brought in after the polls closed. Bottom line: There is absolutely NO ACCOUNTABILITY for those printed ballots.

Mail harvesting can only be performed with mail in ballots.

Drop boxes are only used for mail in ballots.

ALL OF THE ABOVE HAVE PROBLEMS GALORE!!!

Many states disallow mail in ballots to be used. ALL STATES should disallow them.

Absentee ballots are quite different. You must request one by going to city hall and requesting one with your verified signature and you must provide the address and e-mail address you would like it sent to. Not everybody can request absentee ballots either. For those in the military stationed overseas, for ex-pats working in foreign countries, for other Americans working or living abroad, you're eligible to request one, but you personally must request it, nobody can request one on your part. For the disabled/invalid, etc. there are exceptions where you can specify somebody else to proxy sign in your place, but you need to include your reason for absentee ballot (i.e. in a nursing home, in the hospital, unable to be unplugged from life support equipment, etc.)... you MUST have a valid reason. That prevents those with no reason what so ever from requesting an absentee ballot.

FWIW

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New Mexico Midterm Results Lack Transparency and Are Supplied by Corrupt Secretary of State – Resulting in the State Turning Blue

By Joe Hoft
Published November 20, 2022 at 9:00pm

The results of the 2022 Midterms are frustrating to those in New Mexico who want a free and fair election.  The results weren’t transparent and were provided by the corrupt Secretary of State. 
 
When you look at the map above you see that New Mexico is completely blue.  This is a House of Representatives map of the results from the current election.
 
But people who live in the state say this can’t be without election fraud.
 
Below are some activities going on in some of the counties in the state.
 
Otero County:
 
New Mexicans are concerned about the fact that all tabulators used for in-person voting in New Mexico have internal printers capable of making handmade-looking marks on ballots.  To attempt to be able to detect if their ballots were printed on during any subsequent audits, many voters planned to bring a blue pen to mark their ballots. That way it will be obvious if the tabulators, which are stocked with black ink, added any votes to their ballots. A guidance document published by the New Mexico SOS states, “a ballot properly marked with any device other than the marking device provided shall be counted.”
 
Screenshot from the SOS’s document:
 
The fact that any pen is a legal marking device in New Mexico didn’t stop the County Clerk, Robyn Holmes, from telling poll workers during their training before the election to take down the names of anyone who brought their own blue pen to fill out their ballot. She said she would be referring them to the District Attorney.
 
This is voter intimidation and a fourth-degree felony in New Mexico:
 
“NMSA 1-20-14. Intimidation. Intimidation consists of inducing or attempting to induce fear in any member of a precinct board, voter, challenger or watcher by use of or threatened use of force, violence, infliction of damage,         harm or loss or any form of economic retaliation, upon any voter, precinct board member, challenger or watcher for the purpose of impeding or preventing the free exercise of the elective franchise or the impartial         administration of the election or Election Code. Whoever commits intimidation is guilty of a fourth-degree felony.”
 
Clerk Holmes testified to the Otero County Commissioners that she was only joking when she threatened to prosecute voters over the pen they chose to use to mark their ballots. However, some Otero County election workers are currently preparing an affidavit testifying that the statement made by Clerk Holmes was in earnest and not a joke.
 
Sandoval County:
 
A local grassroots group of several hundred citizens concerned about elections have shown up to every county commission meeting in Sandoval County for the last eight months to take 20 or 30 minutes of public comment to cover different topics of concern in New Mexico’s election system – from the fact the machines aren’t certified, to anomalies in the registration database, to impossibilities in the election results.
 
On November 18th, the Sandoval County Commission met to canvass the results of another election conducted on uncertified machines.
 
Public comment wasn’t allowed, so instead, 20 patriots stood silently holding signs that said, “We the people do not consent to certifying the fraudulent November 8th, 2022, election.” They stood silently throughout the 1-hour meeting.
 
Only one commissioner, Jay Block, gave any voice to the violations of the election code that occurred in the midterm elections.
 
The other commissioners couldn’t be bothered to acknowledge the concerns of the patriots in the room who represent a majority of the population who no longer trust their election system and they opted to rubberstamp another fraud.
 
Here is a video of the 4-1 vote to certify and the patriots silently standing in the room with their signs:
 
Torrance County:
 
As you know, Torrance County was inexplicably missing several hundred ballots from their June 2022 primary according to their own internal audit rel
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EXCLUSIVE: Katie Hobbs’ Office Threatened County Board With Arrest, Indictment If They Didn’t Certify Results

AZ Democratic Gubernatorial Candidate Katie Hobbs Campaigns Ahead Of Midterm ARJUN SINGH
December 01, 2022

Katie Hobbs’ office threatened Mohave County Supervisors with arrest and prosecution if they failed to certify the results of their elections before the state deadline.
Kori Lorick, the State Elections Director and Hobbs’ top deputy, sent multiple emails to the Board warning them of consequences, including the “disenfranchisement of voters.”
Mohave was one of several GOP-led counties in Arizona that asked for more time before certifying results to examine election integrity issues.
Democratic Arizona Secretary of State and Gov.-elect Katie Hobbs’ top deputy threatened the Mohave County Board of Supervisors with prosecution if it didn’t certify her election results before a Monday deadline, according to emails and documents reviewed by the Daily Caller News Foundation.
 
Arizona State Elections Director Kori Lorick wrote several letters and emails to members of the board, warning them of criminal charges if the refused to certify the results in time. The letters included threats of lawsuits against the members for “nonfeasance,” as well, per the emails.
 
“The Secretary of State did contact our County and cited A.R.S. Section 16-1010 as a statute that could be used to prosecute [the board] if they did not certify the election,” said Matt Smith, the Mohave County Attorney, to the DCNF. The statute is an Arizona felony statute regarding election officials who “fail to perform their duties” under the law; as a Class 6 felony, upon conviction, it could result in up to two years’ imprisonment. (RELATED: Arizona County Refuses To Certify Election Results, Threatening A GOP House Win)
 
“The threat of legal action, including personally, came from the Arizona State Elections Director [Kori Lorick],” said the board’s chair-elect, Supervisor Travis Linginfelter. While previous reporting noted that the board’s members were warned of prosecution by their counsel, the board’s members have now stated that the threats came from Lorick, who reports to Hobbs, as well.
 
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“Our office will take all legal action necessary to ensure that Arizona’s voters have their votes counted, including referring the individual supervisors who vote not to certify for criminal enforcement under A.R.S. 16-1010,” Lorick wrote in an email to the board obtained by the DCNF. Governor-elect Hobbs has neither resigned as Secretary of State nor recused herself from election oversight and certification.
 
Hobbs was elected governor of Arizona on Nov. 8 to succeed term-limited Republican Gov. Doug Ducey, defeating the Republican candidate Kari Lake, who has now sought to contest the election results. Republicans also lost Arizona’s U.S. Senate race, where Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly defeated Republican investor Blake Masters to win a full six-year term.
 
Lorick’s threat of prosecution was one of several efforts made by Hobbs’ team to force Mohave County to certify its election results before the Nov. 28 state deadline. Republican members of the board, like in other counties in the state, had sought to hold public hearings regarding the validity of voting machines used in their precincts, over concerns that they were not properly approved by the Secretary of State’s office.
 
Lorick also sent a letter to the board warning that their voters could be “disenfranchised” if they did not certify by the deadline. The letter, obtained exclusively by the DCNF from Lingenfelter, states that the board “has a non-discretionary duty to canvass the returns of the election,” and that a failure to do so “will only serve to disenfranchise that county’s voters,” mirroring her warnings to other GOP-led counties that their votes “may be excluded” from the final tallies, thereby affecting results.
 
Mohave County was one of several counties seeking more time to review election integrity issues, though it is the only county whose elected representatives are known to have been threatened with arrest. Cochise County, another GOP-led county in the state that has not certified its results, is currently the subject of a lawsuit by Hobbs’ office, though none of their members have reported criminal prosecution.
 
The Mohave County board eventually certified the results of the election on Monday, Nov. 28, before the deadline expired, though the threat of individual legal consequences for members may have altered their willingness to delay certification, lik
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Twitter also altered the results. Musk plans to unveil everything he finds.

 
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