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More11/12/21
Showtalk said...
The envelopes were thrown away. That is what happened in Arizona.
They are required by chain of custody law to safely and securely store all material for 20 or 22 months.
That's destruction of material they should still have in their custody... and as such, it should be treated as election fraud and those involved should go to jail.
I just read in another article that Michigan has recently found 25,000 dead people still on their voter rolls too.
And in Georgia, there were thousands of ballots which were shredded too.
It's rampant and MUST be fixed.
FWIW
11/12/21
Watchdog group says 2020 ballot images destroyed in 74 Georgia counties | Just The News
FWIW
11/12/21
You’re not understanding me. They may be required to keep envelopes but once they are separated from ballots there is no way to put them back together for analysis.
11/12/21
Was the loss intentional or is Dominion flawed? Why are they still using those systems when they know there were serious problems? Beyond any fraud, some of the machines didn’t work at all. Some switched votes from R to D and could not be switched back, while the voters were in the booths. That is all documented but somehow they couldn’t fix it during the election.
11/12/21
Im not sure that it is true that once separated they can't be rejoined. Both the envelope and the voter ballot are coded identically with that computer link thing (complete senior moment). At least in Arizona. I can't find out what happens to the envelopes after an election has been certified- are they kept or destroyed. I believe they are kept from the idiot recount information that came out. But I think the envelopes are eventually destroyed, while the actual ballots are kept for a set period of time.
11/12/21
They said that in AZ the ballots and the identifying information had been separated and could not be analyzed. I have no idea why.
11/12/21
Who is "they"? The audit was a fallacy start to finish. Even the Republicans who pushed for the "audit" walked away once it was disclosed the ballots and the machines had been illegally removed from state control and left completely unguarded at the coliseum. Two TV reporters, different stations, with accompanying camera and sound crews, got unfettered access to the ballots with no security in sight. The supposed ballot recounters who had physical access to the ballots were untrained volunteers with no background or security checks at all. From what we're reading, their citizenship wasn't even checked. The Senate president who authorized the audit and handed over the machines and ballots to the "auditors" is facing a criminal investigation into her violation of Az Senate rules, Az state law and possible federal charges.
I really do wish people would recognize that local Maricopa county residents had far more information available to us than those in other states. Even our local country western station (Republican owned with conservative format) was broadcasting hourly updates. I also wish people would recognize that I have no reason to obscure or diminish the importance of what happened here.
11/12/21
A data analyst who specializes in election verification. I did not catch his name.
11/12/21
Frankly, as chaotic and illegal as that audit was, I would hope he wasn't here. The company had NEVER conducted a federal election audit. That should raise all kinds of red flags as to appropriateness of the choice, the person who released the machines and voter records had no legal authority to release them, 2nd red flag. Removal of the votes from AZ state control, which is illegal on both state and federal levels, third red flag. Removal of the voting machines, fourth red flag. Inexperience of counters, fifth, no background checks, sixth red flag. And so it goes.
11/12/21
No he’s an expert. Not sure what his actual job is. Again, the audit was never going to yield anything because they could not get the data in the form they would need.