Opinion Polls: Delphi's Polling Place

Hosted by Showtalk

Opinion polls on all subjects. Opinions? Heck yes, we have opinions - but we're *always* nice about it, even when ours are diametrically opposed to yours. Register your vote today!

  • 4599
    MEMBERS
  • 102260
    MESSAGES
  • 5
    POSTS TODAY

Discussions

Do you agree parents of school shooter, Ethan Crumbley, should also be arrested?   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started Dec-3 by Showtalk; 2293 views.
WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Dec-5

An independent group... not the State's AG should handle the matter. Preferrable an out of State agency.

FWIW

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

Dec-6

That is a good idea.

In reply toRe: msg 22
Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

Dec-6

There could be prosecutorial problems when this gets to court. Michigan manslaughter laws are not what we typically consider or know about if we live elsewhere.  Prosecutors must prove there was evidence prior to the date of shooting that the parents knew the child would commit gun violence. If not, they cannot be convicted.  It could even be a felony

She wrote that Michigan has a misdemeanor statute that would hold the parents liable if their child commits a firearm offense in a school zone, and the parent “knows of” or acts to further the offense.

“Michigan also appears to allow for criminal liability if an owner negligently or recklessly allows a firearm to be discharged, though not clear from wording if it could directly be applied to a minor accessing that weapon (and it’s still a misdemeanor),” Rangappa wrote.

By contrast, she continued, Michigan’s “involuntary manslaughter law allows for that underlying negligent or reckless conduct, or unlawful misdemeanor act to be charged as a *felony* if an unintentional killing results from that conduct

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/legal-experts-weigh-in-on-manslaughter-charges-brought-against-parents-of-alleged-michigan-school-shooter/ar-AARrvk0

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Dec-7

Interesting... that seems to be unique to Michigan.

Just thinking to myself...

Why did the parents move from Florida up to Michigan? Did the parents have to relocate for a new job or what?

Were they aware of this law and might it have been a reason for them to move to Michigan?

Just a thought of course.

FWIW

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

Dec-7

They seemed to be struggling for money. We don’t know much about this histories at all.

Marci (marcinmin)

From: Marci (marcinmin) 

Dec-9

It is important to separate criminal charges from civil lawsuits. The parents are clearly liable and by fleeing didn't help their case. The school is unlikely to be criminally liable but the first of probably many lawsuits was filed today by parents of a student Ethan Crumbley shot and wounded
 

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

Dec-9

They will be awarded huge amounts, the district will go bankrupt, and the rest of the students will suffer as a result.  There must be a better way to deal with it.  The burden of proof to send the parents to jail is very high.  They may not face any jail time once it goes to trial.

Marci (marcinmin)

From: Marci (marcinmin) 

Dec-9

The parents need to be held accountable. Interesting that they have expensive  lawyers (the firm that represented Larry Nasser) and their son has a public defender. 

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

Dec-9

Who is paying him? They have very little money. It’s sad they spend so much on themselves and nothing on their son.  He’s going to jail but if he is mentally ill a good attorney can get him the best placement.  Although in a high profile trial the PD is probably very good. They don’t want any mistakes made where he might get off due to poor representation.

  • Edited December 9, 2021 6:43 pm  by  Showtalk
Marci (marcinmin)

From: Marci (marcinmin) 

Dec-9

they have enough money to hire high profile attorneys Shannon Smith and Mariell Lehman for themselves, but a public defender for their son

TOP