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Secession... The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You
Started Dec-5 by WALTER784; 998 views.
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From: WALTER784
Feb-21
HISTORY IN THE MAKING: The State of New California Holds Its 10th Constitutional Convention
By Joe Hoft
Jan. 11, 2023 8:00 pm
The State of New California is holding its 10 Constitutional Convention starting tomorrow, January 12- 14, 2023.
The State of New California is gearing up for statehood.
This idea seemed strange until it was mentioned that it is following precedent. The state of West Virginia was formed during the Civil War when citizens of the new state didn’t agree with the unconstitutional actions of the state of Virginia which seceded and formed a new country.
The courageous men and women in West Virginia stood strong and created a new state according to the US Constitution. The new state was granted statehood during the Civil War.
The state of New California is following the same model.
The state of New California shares the following on its website.
The Need for New California
The U.S. Declaration of Independence of 1776, the Alta California Declaration of Independence of 1836 and the Sonoma Proclamation of 1846 declared the Right of the People in the states of Alta California and California respectively to throw off the bonds of tyranny.
Constitutional Authority to Act
The current state of California has become governed by a tyranny, which rivals those expressed in the above documents. Therefore the United States Declaration of Independence of 1776, the Constitution as adapted in 1783 by the Congress of the United States of America, the Alta California Declaration of Independence of 1836, the Sonoma Proclamation of 1846, and the California State Constitution of 1848 Mandate the Right, the Responsibility, the Duty of the People who are suffering the long train of abuses and usurpations at the hands of a tyrannical government to abolish and make new a government by the People and for the People under GOD.
Article IV Section 3 of the United States Constitution
“New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”
United States Declaration of Independence
“Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such Principles and organizing its Powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness”.
The State Splitting Process
The Precedence was set in 1861 when West Virginia was split from Confederate Virginia as Virginia tried to secede the Union. The process begins when a state’s legislature first votes to split the state. Once the measure in the form of a resolution passes both the State Assembly and Senate it is submitted to Congress. Both the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate must vote to pass the resolution in order to split the state.
No State has been brought into the Union who could not demonstrate their ability to self govern. New California will demonstrate a governance system as modeled by the U.S. Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights…
?…?New California will be the 6th largest State behind New York (bigger than Illinois and Pennsylvania). It’s Estimated 25-27 seats in the US House of Representatives will go to New California. Old California will become the 2nd most populous state behind Texas and ahead of Florida, losing 25-27 seats in the US House of Representatives.
Below is a summary of the New State of California:
See the Agenda for the 10th Constitutional Convention starting tomorrow (Lara Logan will be joining them):
FWIW
Staff
From: WALTER784
Feb-22
EXCLUSIVE: Leaders of East Oregon bid to secede and join Idaho think movement could go nationwide - with more rural countries looking to dump urban Democratic leaders and woke havens like Portland who impose taxes on them and shun 'traditional values'
- Oregon's eastern counties step up plan to break away from liberal state leaders
- The Greater Idaho Movement is taking on lobbyists as it pushes legislation
- Leaders say they have map for rural, red America to flee dominance of blue cities
By ROB CRILLY, SENIOR U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM IN LA PINE, OREGON
PUBLISHED: 13:31 GMT, 5 February 2023 | UPDATED: 14:07 GMT, 6 February 2023
The leader of east Oregon's plan to leave liberal Portland behind and join conservative Idaho is moving fast.
Mike McCarter has a $70,000 budget for lobbyists in the two states, has seen allies introduce legislation in Oregon last month and has a bill ready to go in Idaho that would accelerate discussions for 15 counties to jump the border.
If it works, he says other red counties will have a model for how to dump their urban, Democratic rulers.
'I think people within the United States are watching Oregon's movement, hoping that it'll establish a pathway for them in the future,' he told DailyMail.com.
The leader of the Greater Idaho Movement runs the campaign from a cramped office in a cabin outside La Pine.
Its walls are decorated with the head of a musk deer and muzzle-loading rifles.
Mike McCarter is president of the Greater Idaho Movement. The campaign is stepping up its push for 15 counties to leave Oregon and join the neighboring state of Idaho
The campaign wants to redraw state lines so that 15 conservative counties in the east would join Idaho. Some 11 counties have already voted in favor of pushing ahead with talks
It could not be further from the image of Oregon as a haven for woke politics, where a majority voted to decriminalize hard drugs in 2020, where coastal valleys provide the perfect climate for the delicate pinot noir grape and where the liberal lifestyle was sent up in the TV comedy Portlandia.
That is Portland, with its homeless encampments outside artisan doughnut stores.
By contrast, central and eastern Oregon is a land of hardy ranchers, loggers and sawmill workers. Where daytime temperatures dropped below zero at the weekend after a snowstorm.
And where locals say they have more in common with next-door Idaho than they do Portland and its $6 caffe lattes.
'Our movement is based on values,' said McCarter, 75, a retired nursery worker who runs courses for people who want concealed carry permits
'You know, the traditional values of faith, family, freedom, and independence.
'We don't want to be catered to by the government. In other words, if my power goes down, I have generator, I have water, everything ... food storage.'
As America divides between urban and rural, Democratic cities and Republican hiss and prairies, eastern Oregon is at the forefront of reshaping state lines.
Extra tax burdens on businesses, a softly, softly approach to crime, and swingeing COVID lockdowns have all left people here feeling out of step with state leaders.
Signs on the road west out of John Day in eastern Oregon. People here say they have more in common with neighboring Idaho, and its Republican majority, than voters in Portland and western Oregon who deliver Democratic leaders in election after election
Oregon's moves to tighten gun laws have alienated some voters in the eastern part of the state, where strict COVID lockdowns and new taxes have been deeply unpopular
Fair representation, said McCarter, lay across the border with Boise, rather than Oregon's state capital Salem.
That remains a longshot. McCarter knows that Oregon is unlikely to give up 15 counties, 400,000 people, about 63 percent of its land without a fight.
But so far 11 eastern counties have voted in favor (or at least in favor of legislation requiring the county to discuss moving).
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Host
From: Showtalk
Feb-27
It’s an interesting concept but they all need outside votes to go forward and they can’t get it. State government politicians won’t vote to diminish their own range of influence.
Staff
From: WALTER784
Mar-7
Breaking: Idaho Legislature Passes Bill to Move Idaho-Oregon Border to Include Large Swath Eastern Oregon
By Jim Hoft
Feb. 15, 2023 7:00 pm
In November 2022 two more counties in Oregon voted to join the state of Idaho. Several other counties have already done this in recent years.
The reasons are pretty simple. These Oregonians are tired of being associated with the radical left that rules the city of Portland and drives policy for the rest of the state.
They feel that Idaho, a far more conservative state, much better represents their beliefs.
Conservatives in Oregon fed up with the far-left policies coming from the state legislature in Salem may have hope on the horizon. The Greater Idaho Movement, a secession movement with allies in both the Oregon and Idaho state legislatures, is making progress in its efforts to convince 15 conservative counties in rural Oregon to secede and join Idaho.
11 eastern Oregon counties have already voted in favor of joining Idaho. Due to this success, Idaho state lawmakers have introduced legislation to begin discussions with the Oregon State Legislature on relocating the Idaho/Oregon state boundary.
A Republican State Senator in Oregon introduced a bill to start talks with Idaho last month.
Mike McCarter, the leader of The Greater Idaho Movement, argues his endeavor will give eastern Oregon voters an actual voice in state affairs should the counties officially join. Unlike the urban liberal areas which dominate Oregon politics, Idaho is a rural, conservative state with traditional values.
This week The Greater Idaho bill passed the Idaho House of Representatives.
The “Greater Idaho” bill, which would move the Oregon-Idaho border to include a large swath of Eastern Oregon, has passed the Idaho House of Representatives. The bill authorizes Idaho legislators to begin talks with Oregon about relocating the state line.
During debate on the floor of the House, proponents of the bill cited the desirability of applying Idaho law to eastern Oregon as a way to move Oregon drug laws farther away from Idaho’s current population centers.
Proponents also cited an economic analysis from the Claremont institute that shows that rural Oregon counties would be a net benefit to Idaho financially, according to the report.
We will continue to follow this story and provide any additional information here.
FWIW
Staff
From: WALTER784
Mar-15
They continue to push in that direction... they're fed up with Oregon's passive laws and high crime.
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Host
From: Showtalk
Mar-18
Oddly enough, conservatives are moving to rural Oregon. I know a family who bought a second home there. Once it’s been remodeled, because it’s a huge mess, they will move there permanently to get out of their very liberal city.
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