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What should Biden do in East Palestine following the train accident? The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You
Started Feb-20 by Showtalk; 1719 views.
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From: WALTER784
Feb-23
A given that wasn't provided... Hmmmm.....
Purposeful malicious intent or innocent neglect? Take your pick. Neither are worthwhile.
Corporate ignorance of safety however... could be a very valid issue!!!
FWIW
From: me (DENNIS4927)
Feb-23
I voted all of above but also wanted #9 as I don't think he cares about white people.
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From: WALTER784
Feb-24
Showtalk said...
Don’t they have alarms and alerts?
Apparently, they did, but the alarms sounded too late, however, by the sound of this article, they sounded too soon!?!?!?! Go figure?!?!?!
Investigation into Ohio train derailment points to overheated wheel bearing
Preliminary findings from the National Transportation Safety Board show that one wheel bearing was 253 degrees above ambient temperatures.
NTSB: Ohio train derailment was '100% preventable'
Feb. 23, 2023, 8:00 PM JST / Updated Feb. 24, 2023, 7:50 AM JST
By David K. Li, Tom Costello and Tim Stelloh
The "preventable" and "traumatic" derailment of a train carrying dangerous chemicals in Ohio can be traced to an overheated wheel bearing, which was 253 degrees hotter than the air temperature, National Transportation Safety Board officials said Thursday.
The NTSB released a preliminary report offering clues about what most likely caused the 150-car Norfolk Southern Railway train to crash in East Palestine, just west of the Pennsylvania state line, on Feb. 3.
NTSB Chairperson Jennifer Homendy also announced that the board will hold an investigatory field hearing in the East Palestine area in the spring, in addition to its customary full meeting in Washington, D.C.
“We don’t usually have investigative [field] hearings, but we believe that it will be helpful in getting more factual information and getting buy-in on change that will be needed,” Homendy said in an interview after a news conference.
“I think the community deserves to hear some of the answers, and having it there will allow them to see and hear what is being said,” she said.
According to the NTSB report, a defect detector built into the railway transmitted an alarm message to the train’s crew after it recorded that the temperature of a wheel bearing on the 23rd car was 253 degrees Fahrenheit above the ambient temperature.
Anything over 170 degrees requires the engineer to stop the train, according to Norfolk Southern’s policies.
The engineer hit the brakes, but before the train came to a full stop, the 23rd car derailed, taking others with it, and an automatic emergency break kicked in.
After that, “the crew observed fire and smoke and notified the Cleveland East dispatcher of a possible derailment,” the report said.
NTSB traces Ohio train derailment to overheated wheel bearing
FEB. 24, 2023 05:59
NTSB officials said there is no sign of a track defect or an error by any crew members aboard the 9,300-foot train, which weighed nearly 18,000 tons.
“We have no indication that they did anything wrong,” Homendy told NBC News. “We believe at this time that they acted appropriately and have no evidence otherwise.”
But the reasons the bearing broke will be a focal point of the probe, she said during the media briefing.
“You cannot wait until they fail,” Homendy told reporters. “Problems need to be identified early so something catastrophic like this does not occur again.”
Homendy also offered a message to East Palestine residents: "I am so sorry for the traumatic event that you're going through. It's devastating."
She rejected the idea that the derailment was an unavoidable accident.
"I can tell you this much: This was 100% preventable," she said. "We call things accidents. There is no accident. Every single event that we investigate is preventable. So our hearts are with you."
East Palestine, Ohio, becomes political hot spot after train derailment
FEB. 23, 2023 01:36
The Norfolk Southern train was headed from Madison, Illinois, to Conway, Pennsylvania. The previous detector it had passed along the way recorded a temperature of 103 degrees above the ambient temperature, which Norfolk Southern protocol deems not dangerous enough to stop.
The company said in statement Thursday that it is cooperating with investigators and that its detectors "trigger an
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From: WALTER784
Feb-25
Including the supposedly "controlled burn", but it was anything but "controlled"!!! In fact, their "controlled burn" probably did more damage than just letting the toxic material leak out onto the ground!
Eric Coppolino and the Health Ranger call for the TOTAL EVACUATION of East Palestine due to extremely toxic “dioxin fallout” that will poison the land and crops for GENERATIONS
Tuesday, February 21, 2023
by: Mike Adams
(Natural News) URGENT: Today we join Eric Coppolino in calling for the immediate, total evacuation of East Palestine, Ohio due to the dioxin fallout now taking place there. The full interview with Eric Coppolino is now available at the bottom of this article. The interview also appears at the HR Report channel page on Brighteon.com.
The toxic cloud event that’s dropping extremely toxic dioxins across a large area of residential housing and farmland was deliberately generated by the open burning of vinyl chloride, creating combustion byproducts of dioxins which are many orders of magnitude more toxic and dangerous than the original substance.
Understand that the combustion of chlorinated compounds always results in the formation of dioxins. This simple fact is known by all competent chemists and is openly admitted by the EPA itself on its dioxins warning page, which states:
Studies have shown that only small amounts of chlorinated materials in waste are required to support dioxin formation when burning waste… Much of the dioxins created and released into the air through backyard burning settle on plants. These plants are, in turn, eaten by meat and dairy animals, which store the dioxins in their fatty tissue. People are exposed to dioxins primarily by eating meat, fish, and dairy products, especially those high in fat. Backyard burning occurs most commonly in rural farming areas where dioxin emissions can more easily be deposited on animal feed crops and grazing lands. These dioxins then accumulate in the fats of dairy cows, beef, poultry, and swine, making human consumption of these harmful chemicals difficult to avoid.
Brighteon.TV
Near-PERMANENT ecological destruction on a scale never before witnessed
The EPA even states that dioxins are PBTs, which means 1) Persistent. 2) Bioaccumulative. 3) Toxic. This means they don’t go away, they accumulate up the food chain to achieve higher and higher concentrations, and 3) They are toxic. As the EPA explains:
Dioxins are classified as persistent, bioaccumulative, and toxic pollutants (PBTs). PBTs are highly toxic, long-lasting substances that can build up in the food chain to levels that are harmful to human and ecosystem health. Persistent means they remain in the environment for extended periods of time. Bioaccumulative means their concentration levels increase as they move up the food chain. As a consequence, animals at the top of the food chain (such as humans) tend to have the highest dioxin concentrations in their bodies.
What sort of health problems are caused by dioxin exposure?
1) Immune suppression.
2) Infertility, spontaneous abortions.
3) Extreme hormone disruption.
4) Developmental disorders in babies and children.
5) DNA mutations.
6) Cancer.
Via the EPA:
Dioxins are potent toxicants with the potential to produce a broad spectrum of adverse effects in humans. Dioxins can alter the fundamental growth and development of cells in ways that have the potential to lead to many kinds of impacts. These include adverse effects upon reproduction and development, suppression of the immune system, disruption of hormonal systems, and cancer.
The “controlled burn” actually transformed a relatively harmless chemical into an extremely toxic, deadly chemical that will persist across Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York State for CENTURIES
The media and government are both repeatedly using the phrase, “controlled burn” to describe the setting fire to the liquid vinyl chloride monomer that was being carried by the Norfolk Southern railroad.
Vinyl chloride is made solely of three elements: Carbon, hydrogen and chlorine. In its simplest form, it looks like this (the monomer, liquid form is on the left, and the solid poly form is on the right):
Although vinyl chloride is somewhat toxic, it’s nowhere near as toxic as the dioxins created by burning vinyl chloride without fully incinerating it. Low-temperature combustion actually produces far more toxic compounds than what you started with, in other words.
Put another way, if you incinerate it as a hazardous waste at > 2000 degrees (F), you will destroy the molecule’s morphology and end up with just the individual elements such as carbon and hydrogen, each of which is relatively harmless by itself.
But if you ignite vinyl chloride in an open ditch, you create a dioxin factory that produces extremely toxic molecules from the combination of heat and oxygen. The hydrogen, carbon and chlorine are combined with oxygen from the open air (hence the fact that the burn was actually uncontrolled, not controlled), and you produce molecules like this: (2,3,7,8 TCDD)
After this relatively low-temperature combustion (an open fire in a ditch), you have now converted relatively harmless vinyl chloride into extremely toxic, persistent toxins known as dioxins.
Burning the vinyl chloride was an act of ecological terrorism and a crime against nature and human civilization
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- Edited February 25, 2023 3:52 am by WALTER784
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From: Showtalk
Feb-25
They should pay everyone to relocate until the entire area is cleaned up. The government is refusing and told people it’s safe to return. They are all Republicans so the left doesn’t care if they all die. It’s very obvious they don’t care at all about the dangers.
From: Elarepea
Feb-26
I voted "all of the above", but honestly, he should probably just stay far away because he'll just screw it up more.
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